[AmandaBust]

Ok, I know what I said before but I am at least interested in educating myself so that I can have an intelligent discussion with my wife about the possibility of taking PM or something similar.

I understand that there is a liquid form of PM that others have mentioned works well. Is liquid better or just more convenient? How much and how often should the liquid be used?

Also what form and strength of SP should one take?

Is there really anything more that is necessary to get lovely Hips and Waist like Samantha's? You know that I already have some breasts so anything more would be icing on the cake! Some larger, more sensitive Nipples would be nice too!

-A

[GoneGirl]

One thing nice about NBE is that you're not locked into a medical prescription. You'll have total control of your HRT.

I like the idea of taking it a step at a time. You can't be sure how your body will react at the outset. So, first get some estrogen inside. Start with just PM, ramping up from a small dose. See how your body responds. If you're like me, the effects will be noticeable in two weeks. Others have not been so lucky.

After breast buds, if you want other feminizing effects (less body hair, fatter butt and thighs), add a good anti-androgen (check out the FAQ for a rather complete list). I started out with Spearmint leaf (to inhibit testosterone production) and then later added Pygeum (to neutralize the effects of DHT like hair growth). I've added MACA recently with the hope that it will hasten fat redistribution to the hips and thighs. Note: My DW wants an anti-MACA herb to do the opposite.. LOL!

Beyond that, you'll know a lot about how your body responds, and can fine tune your program with a wide variety of herbs, if that's your desire.

Just a side note: In preparation to talk to your wife, best to brush up on gender identity dysphoria. Here's a good place to start:

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

My best wishes go with you, Amanda dear.

Clara

[AmandaBust]

One thing nice about NBE is that you're not locked into a medical prescription. You'll have total control of your HRT.

I like the idea of taking it a step at a time. You can't be sure how your body will react at the outset. So, first get some estrogen inside. Start with just PM, ramping up from a small dose. See how your body responds. If you're like me, the effects will be noticeable in two weeks. Others have not been so lucky.

After breast buds, if you want other feminizing effects (less body hair, fatter butt and thighs), add a good anti-androgen (check out the FAQ for a rather complete list). I started out with Spearmint leaf (to inhibit testosterone production) and then later added Pygeum (to neutralize the effects of DHT like hair growth). I've added MACA recently with the hope that it will hasten fat redistribution to the hips and thighs. Note: My DW wants an anti-MACA herb to do the opposite.. LOL!

Beyond that, you'll know a lot about how your body responds, and can fine tune your program with a wide variety of herbs, if that's your desire.

Just a side note: In preparation to talk to your wife, best to brush up on gender identity dysphoria. Here's a good place to start:

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

My best wishes go with you, Amanda dear.

Clara

Great advice, thank you Sweet Clara!

I will brush up some more on GD. I like being educated, especially with discussions with my Wife!


-A

[Samantha Rogers]

Oh, please don't use me as an example, honey.
I freely admit to certain "enhancements" to my figure when I dress, both in the upper and lower regions. I only wish those hips were real. LOL

[GoneGirl]

Oh, please don't use me as an example, honey.
I freely admit to certain "enhancements" to my figure when I dress, both in the upper and lower regions. I only wish those hips were real. LOL

That brings up another point that deserves to be mentioned. This isn't directed at you, Sammie, but there may be some members here who could be well served by taking a different approach to their feminine desires.

Not all men want to become womanly in mind or in body, but they like to dress up as women. You will not see these guys doing NBE to grow breasts or find mental calmness. They want to imitate females for another reason which I am not quite in touch with.

I'm not criticizing these fellows for their particular leanings -- whatever floats your boat is okay with me. In some ways I wish I fell into that camp. I think life would be less confusing as a simple transvestite. It's truly amazing how one can transform an otherwise convincing male form into a convincing female one with the right equipment and training.

Clara

[Larana]

Thank you Clara Key this is a crafty tips:

"Start with just PM, ramping up from a small dose. See how your body responds. If you're like me, the effects will be noticeable in two weeks. Others have not been so lucky.

After breast buds, if you want other feminizing effects (less body hair, fatter butt and thighs), add a good anti-androgen (check out the FAQ for a rather complete list). I started out with Spearmint leaf (to inhibit testosterone production) and then later added Pygeum (to neutralize the effects of DHT like hair growth). I've added MACA recently with the hope that it will hasten fat redistribution to the hips and thighs. Note: My DW wants an anti-MACA herb to do the opposite.. LOL"


Can you see the effects on your butt?How can be increase the hip and butt more?(this is the most important to me now)

[Scotti]

Can you see the effects on your butt? How can be increase the hip and butt more?(this is the most important to me now)

I know for me my butt is visibly fuller and my panties fit much better than they used too!

[Scotti]

I understand that there is a liquid form of PM that others have mentioned works well. Is liquid better or just more convenient? How much and how often should the liquid be used?

I've read on here that it's absorbed much faster since it bypasses the digestive system and thus more for the body to use and less waste. Once I'm done with my third bottle of pills I might go for the liquid.

[Larana]

Can you see the effects on your butt? How can be increase the hip and butt more?(this is the most important to me now)

I know for me my butt is visibly fuller and my panties fit much better than they used too!

Ahhh Scotti plese be more serious. I waiting for the other ideas for the bigger butt.
What is your method?(I think about real growing,and useful tips,thanks)

[Scotti]

Ahhh Scotti plese be more serious. I waiting for the other ideas for the bigger butt.
What is your method?(I think about real growing,and useful tips,thanks)

Serious? Very much so!

My method?

I'm taking 2000 mg PM, 1600 mg Spearmint capsules, and 1800 mg SP. I now have tiny breasts, a bigger butt and smaller waist. All this and I've been losing weight too! I feel some of my weight loss though may have been muscle, as my arms and neck seem a bit smaller (something I have not been measuring...perhaps I need to). But if that helps me achieve a more feminine look than so be it.