[Misty0732]

There's been a lot of discussion in Flame's "Cold Turkey" thread. During the discourse Flame suggested a thread about common withdrawal symptoms for genetic men going off NBE herbals may experience, so I'm taking the initiative to get one started.

I've been taking NBE herbs for nearly two years now (with a few short breaks). Initially I was taking FG, SP, and RC. I can honestly say I never experienced any withdrawal symptoms when taking breaks from that routine.

I started PM 14 months ago and am currently on my third break. My experience so far is like this:

1) First week -- no noticeable difference
2) Second week -- return of some GD symptoms (desire to cross-dress, desire to look more female)
3) Third week -- spontaneous erections return, including the morning "woody." Interest in porn and masturbation begin to stir. GD increases.
4) Fourth week -- GD in full swing, to the point of wanting to return to PM for its feminizing effects.

I haven't gone past 4 weeks yet. I am at day 8 (start of my second week) in my current break. True to form, I am experiencing some GD symptoms.

I would love to hear how others react as well. I can't tell you how helpful this forum has been in understanding my own circumstances.

Misty

[spanky (aka Lola)]

I have gone as much as 15 days without PM. I have found that late in the first week, there are changes in my breasts: the buds seem considerably less swollen and my breasts significantly less full. I have not noted any changes in feelings about cross-dressing. I have felt a a growing sense that I want to resume PM but it is very difficult to put my finger on exactly what is the motivation for this.

[flamesabers]

Thank you Misty for creating this thread.

I'm in the middle of week 3, but the symptoms I'm experiencing are in the week 2 category you've mentioned. I think another symptom worth mentioning is an increased edginess in personality. In other words, my detached thinker side becomes more prominent. (I'm sure some of you here on this board have noticed this change). During these times, it seems like I can be a bit dismissive of other people's struggles and hardships.

[GoneGirl]

I just started week 3 of my cold turkey break, but, truthfully, I was largely off PM for two weeks before the break due to illness.

I can't detect any mental changes as yet. I feel no return of the old anxiety, impatience, and snappiness that was always with me in my pre-PM days. My libido is still quiet despite the return of spontaneous night erections. I still admire pretty women in a non-sexual way, but the arousal response is picking up again. My desire to crossdress is the same as before, but a presumed rise in my T level seems to be a factor in my willingness to take greater risks lately.

My breasts have ceased being tender to the touch. My breast buds and nipples have become much softer. My joint stiffness has returned, but not as bad as before PM. Itchy skin has also subsided quite a bit, but is not completely gone. My body hair seems to be growing faster again, but maybe it's my imagination. I abhor the possibility.

I have found myself tempted to go back on PM to halt what appears to be a reversal of some breast volume, but have held firm so far. I have no doubt that I will resume PM in two weeks.

Clara (feeling real good about life in general)

[Pansy-Mae]

I get exactly the same effects and timings as Misty, whenever I stop PM.
I would add that physically I also start to notice a reduction in boob volume after 2-3 weeks.

[Lenneth]

There's been a lot of discussion in Flame's "Cold Turkey" thread. During the discourse Flame suggested a thread about common withdrawal symptoms for genetic men going off NBE herbals may experience, so I'm taking the initiative to get one started.

I've been taking NBE herbs for nearly two years now (with a few short breaks). Initially I was taking FG, SP, and RC. I can honestly say I never experienced any withdrawal symptoms when taking breaks from that routine.

I started PM 14 months ago and am currently on my third break. My experience so far is like this:

1) First week -- no noticeable difference
2) Second week -- return of some GD symptoms (desire to cross-dress, desire to look more female)
3) Third week -- spontaneous erections return, including the morning "woody." Interest in porn and masturbation begin to stir. GD increases.
4) Fourth week -- GD in full swing, to the point of wanting to return to PM for its feminizing effects.

I haven't gone past 4 weeks yet. I am at day 8 (start of my second week) in my current break. True to form, I am experiencing some GD symptoms.

I would love to hear how others react as well. I can't tell you how helpful this forum has been in understanding my own circumstances.

Misty

with me it's more just a return of GD caused Stress (inc being an uber grump due to it) & CD Desires than "Withdrawal Symptoms".

and lately the symptoms come back both sooner & seemingly worse than they were before, the symptoms start to return about 3 days after going off of PM, I start loosing sleep around the 4th/5th day....

[Misty0732]

I should also add that in addition to the return of GD and male sexual desires, I slowly revert to my "male mode of thinking." As an engineer, I'm frequently focused on task and become very unreceptive to the feelings of others. This isn't intentional -- I just tend to be oblivious to what those around me are going through and I'm unable or unwilling to consider their thoughts or feelings during interactions. I've noticed that when I'm on PM I'm much more empathetic and less likely to dismiss others.

Good grief, I just realized the paragraph above is a perfect example of slipping into my "male mode". It's factual but rather icy...

As far as physical changes during PM breaks, I've noticed that my breasts stay sensitive until the third week or so. They're still quite sensitive to the touch now (after 8 days). I haven't really noticed a decrease in fullness, but then again when my GD disappears I'm not really looking for them to grow anyway (so I'm not keeping track). They are growing, however!

Misty

[GoneGirl]

Okay, day 16. Libido returning. I bought a nice skirt today and modeled it for DW. She always gets a bit amorous when I dress up, but when I'm on PM my arousal response is usually muted. Not today!

Clara

[Misty0732]

Day 10 for me... first spontaneous erection during the night. Woke me up -- felt weird...

Misty

[flamesabers]

Day 10 for me... first spontaneous erection during the night. Woke me up -- felt weird...

Misty

Day 16 for me. I got my first morning wood when I woke up. It was strange.