[GorgeousBlonde]

Lotus, I am taking Spearmint, Saw Palmetto, using Estrogel, and Progesterone Cream, and thinking about adding Licorice root OR Estrofem to my program to get an oral form of estrogen.

I prefer going the natural route and using Licorice root, still debating whether to use Estrofem OR Licorice Root. So far I see significant growth with Estrogel and Progesterone cream and looking for even better/faster results.

[Lotus]

Lotus, I am taking Spearmint, Saw Palmetto, using Estrogel, and Progesterone Cream, and thinking about adding Licorice root OR Estrofem to my program to get an oral form of estrogen.

I prefer going the natural route and using Licorice root, still debating whether to use Estrofem OR Licorice Root. So far I see significant growth with Estrogel and Progesterone cream and looking for even better/faster results.

I get the whole pushing the envelope thing, in theory (or least on paper) LR has potential. However, by itself in a program is one thing, but adding hrt might by pointless or wasteful, meaning your money, and then you have all the side effects but I'll explain what I mean.

First thing though is that I wanted to mention I would stop using SP, it's ant-estrogenic, spearmint lowers free T, I'd suggest White Peony Root and also get a complete profile if you can.

White Peony--Estrogenic, blocks 5ar and pro-aromatase - Strong.
A compound found in white peony inhibits the production of testosterone and promotes the activity of aromatase, which converts testosterone into estrogen.


One more thing about Licorice root and hrt is estrogen receptors, LR has an affinity for estrogen receptors. So the question would be which one (LR or HRT) is going to get there first. To understand this better please read the following.

Home reception
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=20123

   

An estrogen receptor is a protein molecule found inside those cells that are targets for estrogen action. Estrogen receptors contain a specific site to which only estrogens (or closely related molecules) can bind.

The target tissues affected by estrogen molecules all contain estrogen receptors; other organs and tissues in the body do not. Therefore, when estrogen molecules circulate in the bloodstream and move throughout the body, they exert effects only on cells that contain estrogen receptors.


Just curious, you stated that you've seen significant growth with Estrogel and Progesterone cream, and are looking for even better/faster results. What kind of growth have you had so far?, and what's the current goal?.

[GorgeousBlonde]

Lotus, Thank you for the suggestion to take White Peony Root instead of Spearmint. I went from A to B in 4 months. Looking to go to a large C cup or small D.

What do you suggest Licorice Root or Estrofem? Do you have a link to your program?

[Lotus]

Lotus, Thank you for the suggestion to take White Peony Root instead of Spearmint. I went from A to B in 4 months. Looking to go to a large C cup or small D.

What do you suggest Licorice Root or Estrofem? Do you have a link to your program?

Spearmints ok, it's saw palmetto that I would stop. Currently I take LR, so honestly I wouldn't recommend something I haven't tried myself. Have you posted any pics?


Here's my program post #286
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=17438&page=29

[GorgeousBlonde]

Lotus, is this White Peony tea good, or does it need to be White Peony Root in supplement form?

http://www.iherb.com/Frontier-Natural-Pr...53-g/31220

[Lotus]

Lotus, is this White Peony tea good, or does it need to be White Peony Root in supplement form?

http://www.iherb.com/Frontier-Natural-Pr...53-g/31220

I was doing the tea route for a period of time and decided to try WP in an extract, so spanky has been using the extract and I just ordered some, I also switched to PM extract too.

It does indeed. As soon as I measured I took my second 1,000 mg PM for the day. Of course, I am not sure how I will feel once warm weather arrives and I am wearing just a short sleeve shirt everywhere!

I just received the white peony root extract - it is actually produced by a company named Iowa Select Herbs, LLC. Simple internet research does not turn up much. Thus, the only thing I can say at this point is that they ship very promptly.

Ok, please give us a review when you can.

Good luck!

I thought I would provide an review now that I have observed the first really noticeable change. I have been taking the white peony extract - 6 drops daily, plus spearmint tea about 6 hours later, combine with about 2,000 mg of PM for the last week. Today I took off my shirt and examined my breasts and there is a distinct change in my nipples. Both nipples (the nubbins and not the areoli) are significantly larger, with a bigger diameter/circumference. The head of the nipples feels soft (until stimulated) and has almost a dimple in the center. In a nutshell, to me they look much less like a guy's nipples to me now.

Up until now, although I had noticed some widening and softening of the areoli, it is only now, with the addition of the white peony, that I noticed the change in my nipples.

This leaves me with the profound, nearly metaphysical question: what do it mean? And where it is going?

spanky how exciting,

To me its gotta mean the next evolutionary step right?, you guessed it!, bona-fide feminine breasts.

Please, can you share where you the ordered WP from?

Congrats!

Thanks! I got it through amazon. It is Iowa Select Herbs White Peony Root (paeonia officinalis). I think it cost about $22 for 8 oz.

White Peony Root Extract 4oz
http://www.amazon.com/White-Peony-Root-Extract-4oz/dp/B000OAXVK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399073173&sr=8-1&keywords=white+peony+extract

[GorgeousBlonde]

Lotus your NBE program looks good. I've tried PM and find it wasn't as strong as Estrogel, the gel really works, and bypasses the liver atleast the first time around.

"Oral preparations are not necessarily predictably absorbed, and are subject to a first pass through the liver, where they can be metabolized, and also initiate unwanted side effects. Therefore, alternative routes of administration that bypass the liver before primary target organs are hit have been developed. Transdermal and transvaginal routes are not subject to the initial liver passage."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol

[GorgeousBlonde]

Maybe I can add Bovine Ovary to my program. I guess I'm just impatient and looking to add something MORE to speed up my breast growing results. For sure I will replace White Peony for the Saw Palmetto. What do you think of BO Lotus?

[Lotus]

Lotus your NBE program looks good. I've tried PM and find it wasn't as strong as Estrogel, the gel really works, and bypasses the liver atleast the first time around.

"Oral preparations are not necessarily predictably absorbed, and are subject to a first pass through the liver, where they can be metabolized, and also initiate unwanted side effects. Therefore, alternative routes of administration that bypass the liver before primary target organs are hit have been developed. Transdermal and transvaginal routes are not subject to the initial liver passage."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol

Oh you know me, I've done my homework on NBE Gorgeous!, about every other month I'll alternate with BO.


FAQ ★★Enzymes affected by NBE★★
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=20113


FAQ-Absorption rates
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

FAQ's
http://www.breastnexus.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=56

[GorgeousBlonde]

Lotus, the pro around here