[athena23]

I'm having trouble controlling my obsession to have breasts.
As I said in my recent intro, I have been on Saw Palmetto for about 5 years for prostate related issues. I have developed moobs or focused fat on my chest. Recently I discussed this with my wife and she said as long as I was not trying to grow breasts I should enjoy it, which I am. Note: I'm only out to my wife and am a bedroom dresser. However, I have not been entirely honest which I know is a problem on its own

I have been doing massages and added Fenugreek and in the last couple of days Red Clover. I have also been working with light weights so my chest is also getting more muscular underneath but I have a nice mass of soft tissue on top. I know that herbal NBE effectiveness is up for debate. Regardless, I don't want to transition and if I did I would go the hormone route, I just feel compelled to have breasts albeit small so I can live as male. When I think about it, my chest is probably smaller than most guys but I notice mine all the time, the light bouncing and am constantly looking at my reflection when I walk by windows, shopping online for sports bras etc.

it is consuming my waking thoughts more than practically anything else which is bad because I have a lot on the go that I should be focusing on instead. Thoughts?

[GoneGirl]

Many of us here, at one time or another, have experienced a similar unrelenting desire to have breasts, and those of us who have actually tried herbal NBE using PM are not debating its effectiveness. It's true that results vary, but that's true for synthetic HRT as well.

Your obsession with having breasts could be an indication that you have a strong cross gender identity accompanied by the stress inducing effects of testosterone that is causing your obsession. Have you considered seeing a sex/gender therapist? If you are transgender, it's not going to go away.

Clara

[athena23]

Many of us here, at one time or another, have experienced a similar unrelenting desire to have breasts, and those of us who have actually tried herbal NBE using PM are not debating its effectiveness. It's true that results vary, but that's true for synthetic HRT as well.

Your obsession with having breasts could be an indication that you have a strong cross gender identity accompanied by the stress inducing effects of testosterone that is causing your obsession. Have you considered seeing a sex/gender therapist? If you are transgender, it's not going to go away.

Clara

Clara, thanks for your thoughts. I did not mean to cast doubt on people's programs. I understand that PM is effective. I'm not doing PM and am happy with the regime that I have going. I have recently thought of seeing a therapist but have not made any decisions yet.