[krystal3838]

Hi girls, I am new to this site and absolutely excited to be here...I have used Fenugreek, Saw Palmetto and Wild Yam in addition to massage for years now on and off...I just ordered some PM and was curious as to what is a good starting dose...smooches...

[The First Aria]

I would start out with about 1000mg per day, unless you have a medical condition. Keep it there for about 30 days and notice if you are getting "growing pains" or other indications of the hormones starting to work.

If you don't, or once your body get used to that and no more indications, ramp up to about 1500mg per day. Same thing, keep there for 30 days.

Many peeps here have said that bio males usually don't get any where until they go 2000mg per day, but I have had growth at 1000mg per day. Maybe that's due to my age and low T.

You can check the FAQ's section in the male area for further Ideas or other herbs to use along with it. Hope this helps a little anyways

[krystal3838]

iaboy, thanks so much for your information...I too am dealing with low t and at this point believe that is a blessing...I will post a photo before I start the PM and will post every 30 days as I get into this...thanks again,,,smooches

[elainecd]

Hello and welcome to the forum
Everyone is a little different....I ramped up after starting in August to 2000mg a day. two caps early morning on empty stomach and two in evening. Every now again I through one cap mid day. I also take Peony root extract and Reishi Mushroom caps and that's it.
But pM is the foundation.

PM is generally stronger than anything you're currently taking.
The Saw Palmetto you may want to rethink as its fallen out of favor here.

You'll feel the growing in your nipples.

[krystal3838]

Thanks so much elainecd...I cannot wait to get my order of PM...should be here be the beginning of next week...If I may ask, where do you buy your Peony Root??? Is this an herb that you believe is essential in seeing growth progress? As I have indicated, I have played around with many herbs for some time now and have had some nice growth...but I want more... Thanks for welcoming me to the forums as well...I feel comfortable here...smooches

[elainecd]

Delighted to have you join us. Seems we're gaining new members here every week.

to answer your questions. I purchased the Peony Root extract from local health food store. They carried the brand's full line , http://www.herbsoflight.com/ , except WP....they ordered in for me and have kept it. Strangely it's in their catalogue but not on their website. it's also where I purchased the Reishi Mushroom on both capsule and extract. Host Defense Brand.

To answer the why....To be honest it was recommended by our resident Chief Boobologist Lotus. I used PM the estrongenic herb , only for about a month to get rolling and took his advice about what to add.

I quote directly here from the FAQ section of this forum with full credit to Lotus who has spent countless hours researching this all for the community.

"Reishi-reishi mushrooms significantly reduced levels of 5-alpha reductase, preventing conversion of testosterone into the more potent DHT. High levels of DHT are a risk factor for conditions such as benign prostatatic hypertrophy (BPH), acne, and baldness.

White Peony--Estrogenic, blocks 5ar and pro-aromatase -(ethanol content from extracts increases aromatase) A compound found in white peony inhibits the production of testosterone and promotes the activity of aromatase, which converts testosterone into estrogen."

I would recommend reading and studying the whole guide.
Again, I quote Lotus.

"FAQ-The Genetic Male NBE Guide -
Instead of having 3-4 threads talking about male NBE needs I'm condensing all of them into one, making it streamlined for ease of use and reference. apologies, the thread is closed till its completed."

If you're not using this guide, you're missing out. The best part you can go back and refer to it time and time again to better understand just what you're doing to your body. You may be overlapping herbs, using uneeded ones and wasting money that you could be using to buy higher quality herbs and extracts. Be careful what you put in your body. Cheaper is not better, these are strong herbs in some cases and adulerated in others hitting low prices.
You want the best you can afford.

Have a great holiday season.

[Roxanne Miller]

Getting ready to start PM here as well. I've read several, extensive articles on the effects, chemical breakdown and dosages of it. While the majority of dosages I've seen throughout this forum deal with 1000mg per day, every article I read pertaining to PM put the high end dosage at 250mg per day and the average at 100-200mg. Why is there such a discrepancy? As a note, I was specifically looking at articles stating the effects of PM on genetic males. Not to sound contradictory, but I just want to make sure that a risk to health doesn't become an issue. Thanks for your help.

[The First Aria]

Hi there.. Ainterol suggestion for genetic females is 1000mg a day.. And they have something going for them we as males do not.... Ovaries.... I do not, however, subscribe nor think it's wise to go 3000 - 4000mg per day as I have seen some peeps do on this forum.

I am a firm believer in using as little as possible while getting benefits. For some of the reason's you are concerned. In my case, I am currently using the equivalent of about 1500 - 1800 mg's. I have hit a plateau, so I probably will increase to about 2000mg's.

[pom19]

Getting ready to start PM here as well. I've read several, extensive articles on the effects, chemical breakdown and dosages of it. While the majority of dosages I've seen throughout this forum deal with 1000mg per day, every article I read pertaining to PM put the high end dosage at 250mg per day and the average at 100-200mg. Why is there such a discrepancy? As a note, I was specifically looking at articles stating the effects of PM on genetic males. Not to sound contradictory, but I just want to make sure that a risk to health doesn't become an issue. Thanks for your help.

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High dosages you see here are for males, although some like me do not take high dosage. Also females should cycle it, taking it for about 2 weeks/month either before period or after which depends on the individual. Good Luck, POM

[Roxanne Miller]

Thanks pom!