[Lotus]

This schematic is for those who doubt the existence of E in the man bits, lol.
Surely you can see what I'm getting at, any ideas?, and not the drinking part again please lol.

Yes yes I know, don't call me surely, hahaha.



   

Estrogen, Efferent Ductules, and the Epididymis1
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles...2_0207.pdf

[The First Aria]

So.....does this mean to get more boobs I need to cut my balls off?
Or just up my PM, Reishi and Peony Root?

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Well elaine, that could be a good solution as long as the Dr. would use them as implants.

Oh geeze, someone trying to take over as resident Smart Alec. LOL JEALOUS, wish I thought of it first...LOL

Good one POM ^5

[pom19]

So.....does this mean to get more boobs I need to cut my balls off?
Or just up my PM, Reishi and Peony Root?

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Well elaine, that could be a good solution as long as the Dr. would use them as implants.

Oh geeze, someone trying to take over as resident Smart Alec. LOL JEALOUS, wish I thought of it first...LOL

Good one POM ^5

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It was such a serendipity. I was in my office and after reading the post this funny thought came to me. I started laughing and could not stop, so I said oh, well, let our buddies laugh too.

[Lotus]

Why essential fatty acids works with hormones,

Saturated Fats from Foods Help Build Hormones and Tame Your Appetite
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...f-fat.aspx

[ellacraig]

Why essential fatty acids works with hormones,

Saturated Fats from Foods Help Build Hormones and Tame Your Appetite
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...f-fat.aspx

A similar case here they studied several people and did pre high fat diets blood tests then fed these people a true high fat diet with butters and fat left on the meat etc etc. Long story short all blood tests for associated things all improved after the high fat diet. Mostly diabetics from memory. It would pay to note these people were not fed any sugars! Bread s sweets etc. Just real fatty meat meals and veggie based carbs.
My granny cooked our meat and chips in lard! And I'm a skinny Minnie.

[Lotus]

Why essential fatty acids works with hormones,

Saturated Fats from Foods Help Build Hormones and Tame Your Appetite
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...f-fat.aspx

A similar case here they studied several people and did pre high fat diets blood tests then fed these people a true high fat diet with butters and fat left on the meat etc etc. Long story short all blood tests for associated things all improved after the high fat diet. Mostly diabetics from memory. It would pay to note these people were not fed any sugars! Bread s sweets etc. Just real fatty meat meals and veggie based carbs.
My granny cooked our meat and chips in lard! And I'm a skinny Minnie.

I believe it, here's something else to consider, and it happens to be about palmatic acid. Can anybody guess the potential?.


Palmitoylation enhances the hydrophobicity of proteins and contributes to their membrane association. Palmitoylation also appears to play a significant role in subcellular trafficking of proteins between membrane compartments, as well as in modulating protein-protein interactions.

This observation raises the intriguing hypothesis that the palmitoylation of ERa could be the major determinant for ERa residence at the plasma membrane.

Here, we examine the role of palmitoylation in localizing ERa to the plasma membrane and in promoting the ERa caveolin-1 interaction, as well as the role of E2 in regulating ERa palmitoylation. Our results indicate that ERa palmitoylation is required for ERa protein interaction (i.e., caveolin-1) and for the receptor localization to and maintenance at the plasma membrane. As a consequence, ERa palmitoylation enables rapid E2 signaling important for cell proliferation.

Palmitoylation-dependent estrogen receptor alpha membrane localization: regulation by 17beta-estradiol.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15496458
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmitoylation

[Lotus]

Alright, I'll try this.....

Foods High in Palmitic acid(per 100 g edible portion)
http://wholefoodcatalog.info/nutrient/pa...oods/high/

[Lotus]

Not that we get many chemists here, so when you do get one have to pay attention to what they've shared. You don't have to be a chemist to see all the evidence/research material posted out there on the possibilities of achieving breast growth, but it sure doesn't hurt if you ARE a chemist.

But.......this is doable there's many ways to grow breasts, using phytoestrogens are only a small percentage in achieving breast growth. I'll show you why in the next post.

Personally speaking I have a bachelors degree in chemistry so I can understand the research that is *there*.

I'm sure there *are* studies that go on about the relative potency of particular estrogens vs their natural counterparts but the problem with leaving it at that is that not all phytoestrogens are made equal.

Some of them are still called phytoestrogens and yet they block the activity of estrogen in the body by competitively inhibiting the natural stuff, more strongly bind the receptor sites and then having much weaker action at the receptor sites.

What you want are herbs that have estrogenic effects that *don't* inhibit existing estrogens much and *also* add to the existing effects.

[ellacraig]

And these herbs are.....?

[Lotus]

The information for miroestrol is here https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/...32-1328187

I misread it, and thought it caused mammary cell multiplication=growth. They believe it to activate ER-alpha, and to possibly increase mammary growth on normal cells, based on its results on a test-tube of bad cells. It could promote growth of mammary cells whether they are healthy tissue or not. So for now, its just a lead, to find this out.

A better herb would encourage healthy breast tissue and stop malignant tissue, such as fenugreek, asparagus or hops.

Rhubarb tops the list, crazy!!