[The First Aria]

It is sometines nice to want something bacuse it simply feels right?

I think, you boil all the non sense down, PaularR has nailed it. What ever the reason, be it fascination, auto eroticism, maybe even just simply being lost in the world... It boils down to the quoted statement that PaluaR stated.

Being a woman is not just having kids, or spreading her "love" around for money or just plain sex. Being a man is the same. Rather you are a feminist, hedonist or something between.... As long as I am not hurting someone, or something, I believe I am in good stead with my higher authority, my wife and just as import, my life.

That is my guidelines, it sounds like some women are just mad because we are taking one of their attributes from them? How about the short hair styles that women have adopted as of late?? Or, wearing of slacks, jeans, boy shirts?? Should we as Bio men feel slighted or annoyed because they have corrupted our clothing or hair styles???

Sorry TP, you are wrong in so many ways.

[sfem]

TP. Back to your attempts to antagonize us? Please don't encourage TP to return to our forums.

[TibetanPrincess]

Wow. I'm simply thinking out loud here as a woman and for you to say no to have me back, insane! I have contributed to these forums in a way that has helped even some of you grow your breasts just like others have. You should be thankful to have feedback, period. Let alone allowed on a forum that was originally intended for women, facepalms...
Entitled, are we?

You'll be surprised as to how many females on this forum think the same way. They are just silent, not saying anything

I am simply saying know your reasons for such a need without the denial In front of you. Not everyone is in denial, just quite a few of you.

No. I'm not mad, but you clearly are. I would never wish such confusion or bouncing back n forth on anyone.

And you could never truly take a females attributes because you never were in the first place, but you can be humbled by the fact that you manipulate your body to possess them. Face it, you are in a position of ENTITLEMENT for what ever reason (one you must figure that one out). You are probably the one that envies pettily at something you are biologically not. That my dear is rediculousness, unless you truly are Transgendered and cannot stand being in the body you are in.

I, myself as a genetic female am humbled by my hard working efforts to grow my breasts a large as they are.
So I will never think I am above anyone. Nor will I ever think I am less of a woman because mine are smaller.

[bryony]

I'm just curious and have a question regarding those on the spectrum of gender identity:

While it's obvious, those who despise every bit of their sex and wish to completely be female biologically (if they could chose).

My question is for males who just want to grow breasts.

I think you mean such males who are not attracted to men?

If you were given a chance to chose between being an aesthetically pleasing to the eye male (perfect from head to toe) or an less than attractive female ( unbalanced features that surgery could not fix),

Which would you chose? Of course, it's one or the other. Meaning, you cannot jump from expressing one to the other. As that female, you could never quite pass as one on the street, no matter how much you tried or wanted too.

So which would you chose over the other?

In my case, it would be the former. Part of the problem of my brain development is that the thought of actually being an object that I found desirable became the primary motivator for sexual desire.

Taking PM actually cures me of this desire, temporarily, at least in its obsessive form; I still feel glum about not actually being able to fulfill that desire, but I would far rather present as a male than as a female who clearly appears to still be male - as I would do.

One point you need to consider is that the motivation can change. I now use PM therapeutically to remove my TG obsessions and depression. In doing so, I have rendered myself incapable of using my penis for sex - which is fine, because my wife had stopped enjoying penetrative sex post-menopause, and I could only use it with transsexual fantasy. However, the PM enabled my breasts to become orgasmic with a refractory period counted in seconds... with no fantasy visualisation required. All in all I have benefited tremendously, psychologically.

B.

PS I will now be out for a week. Holidays here in the UK.

[sfem]

TP, please take your gender binary back where it came from. We are working to grow beyond it in these forums. Troll elsewhere.

[Lotus]

Also, I've noticed some of you think Gynecomastia was nature-given, that's obvious denial.
Gynecomastia is caused by environmental toxins as well as pharmaceutical exposures.
It goes against the grain of nature. No healthy male would ever have actual developed or even partially developed breasts.

You've left a few conditions out,

Alcoholism (cirrhosis)
Proclactin induced
Hypothyroidism
Marijauna
Klinefleters
Obesity
Diabetes

Maybe a few others, point being.....and as it turns out....nature does have something to do with it.

[Lotus]

Also, I've noticed some of you think Gynecomastia was nature-given, that's obvious denial.
Gynecomastia is caused by environmental toxins as well as pharmaceutical exposures.
It goes against the grain of nature. No healthy male would ever have actual developed or even partially developed breasts.

You've left a few conditions out,

Alcoholism (cirrhosis)
Proclactin induced
Hypothyroidism
Marijauna
Klinefleters
Obesity
Diabetes
Adrenals
Cortisol


Maybe a few others, point being.....and as it turns out....nature does have something to do with it.

But......on the other hand, masculinization in women is androgen driven. So, there ARE parallels, especially if we use nature as the parallel.

Adrenals
Cushings-–-------cortisol (men too)
PCOS
Ovarian cysts
Androgen secreting tumors------(men prolactin induced tumors)

And, as it turns out men have estsrogen receptors in their testes, aromatase in the penis, (and for those that don't know) aromatase converts Testosterone to estrogen.

[TibetanPrincess]

of course and that's especially today's world, very common... But it's not ideal nature.

It truly serves no actual purpose on a straight male's body. Unless you're in some land of the lost with a baby to feed in your arms.

[ellacraig]

Code:

I come in peace..

I never knew about Gynecomastia before joining this site. Its so weird that medication/otherwise can do this to a male to the point where they end up with bosoms bigger than some females. I wonder if its reversible? (if it were an unwanted effect)

Imagine if it were possible that a side effect of some medications for woman were to grow a penis! OMG wow.. Esp given all the crazy side effects of pharmaceuticals these days

Anyway to Iaboy and the original post good on you and each to their own. We only live once and life is short so live it the way you want o

[Lotus]

of course and that's especially today's world, very common... But it's not ideal nature.

It truly serves no actual purpose on a straight male's body. Unless you're in some land of the lost with a baby to feed in your arms.

I'm straight, no CD tendencies or TG desires, it wasn't even a blip on my radar. I have gay friends, have gone to gay bars, but everybody knew I was straight. I was hit on from both sides, male/female. When gyno hit me started I did freak, I had a mammogram and it confirmed the diagnosis. And mine came from a combination of pain-med/thyroid/poor diiet and lots of coffee.

In my case it creeped up on me, I fought it a first, then educated myself about it. Then I found Breast Nexus, I lurkerd for about a year. Fast forward..... I'm here ....and yes, now I want breasts and a nice curvy shape. That's the only two things I'll change. I'd never changed my face, voice or snip snip.

I don't want to be completely female, nor do I want to loose my maleness. My initial reason to be here was to learn and grow breasts. I have a new goal now, solve breast growth......and to do it safely. An unlikely (but very cool) friendship has developed between a scientist and myself. From that friendship, and whoever else would to participate, we will set out to solve the breast growth solution.