30-12-2013, 05:29 PM
I'd be happy if I could fluff mine up! lol... I think your doing an amazing job! Gives me a new target to shoot for!
Quote:Both men and women produce estrogen. Estrogens perform beneficial activities in the human body for both sexes; however, how the body metabolizes (breaks down) estrogen is significant for continued good health.
DIM (diindolylmethane) is a natural organic compound that promotes healthy estrogen metabolism in men and women as well as increasing the body’s natural ability to burn fat. DIM is a phytochemical naturally found in small amounts in cruciferous vegetables such as cabbage, cauliflower, and broccoli and that has subsequently been synthesized into a convenient, easy-to-swallow pharmaceutical grade nutritional supplement.
Supplementation of DIM promotes the effective metabolism of estrogen by helping the body turn estradiol into helpful metabolites. These helpful metabolites can aid the body in resisting uncontrolled cell growth and the formation of tumors, effect bone health, and promote weight loss by encouraging healthy levels of the hormones that activate enzymes to stimulate lipolysis—the release of stored fat. Properly balanced estrogen levels are instrumental in general hormonal health and well-being.
Choosing the Right DIM Supplement
As DIM is poorly absorbed by the body be sure to use a microencapsulated DIM, a patented formulation which enhances absorption and assimilation.
Quote:Healthy estrogen metabolism begins in the liver. It’s vital that you supply your liver cells with the nutrients it needs in order to accomplish the metabolic reactions that are required for maintaining estrogens in the correct, healthy form. When estrogen is present in the wrong form, it has been shown to increase the risk of auto-immune disease, breast, and uterine cancers1.http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolite
(31-12-2013, 09:15 PM)jacp114 Wrote: You can get white peony as bai shao in TCM, which is an excellent way to increase aromatase(converstion of testosterone to estrogen)
Here is a link for some:
http://www.chineseherbsdirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=995&gclid=CPW8tI-g27sCFWMV7Aod4mkApw
Also, spearmint is a solid anti-androgen.
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Also, if you want to take some of this to another level, you can purchase research chems. BUT BE AWARE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS AND IMPACT!
Research chems are going to do similar things as the herbs just waaay more potent and focused. It's what they are usually derived from, and it's just one specific part of the herb segmented out and turned into a chem.
Generally a challenge for breast growth, and especially in men is going to be their testosterone converting into DHT(the most potent androgen).
Finasteride and it's powerful cousin Dutasteride both inhibit 5ar, which is what converts testosterone to DHT. This has been a treatment for men going bald and has worked, but as a side effect many men have noticed their sex drive drop, gynecomastia(BREAST GROWTH), and other feminization. With less 5ar, all the testerone gets converted to estrogen.
Flutamide also is a major antiandrogen, and a side effect is breast growth when given to men.
Spironolactone is also an anti-androgen, and you can get it topically fairly easily. I imagine you could apply this to your breasts.
Bicalutamide blocks androgen receptors. Here is a quick excerpt from wikipedia:
Blockade of androgens receptors by bicalutamide in the brain will eliminate the negative feedback loop of testosterone on the release of luteinizing hormone (LH). This in turn will lead to a dramatic increase in testosterone and estrogen levels. Bicalutamide treatment will block the effects of rising testosterone levels, but the effect of rising estrogen levels will remain unopposed and lead to feminizing effects, the most notable one being gynecomastia, which is often painful.
Also in my research I've found there is a huge link between insulin, IGF, estrogen and breast growth/feminization. I'm not exactly sure, but just watching the womens forum, this forum and the research papers I read, it seems like there is something missing with just maxing out the estrogens.
I think the link between growth hormone, insulin and estrogens is most highlighted in macromastia cases. This shows up though with the use of Bovine ovaries, which is why I think it worked so well for Cheryll.
Still doing research though.
Just throwing this out there. I'll probably do a post with the list of herbs, chems, etc that I have worked out.
Quote:Iron supplements. In some women, iron deficiency could be a cause of hair loss. Your clinician may test your iron level, particularly if you're a vegetarian, have a history of anemia, or have heavy menstrual bleeding. Iron supplements are recommended if a woman's iron level is less than 70 nanograms per milliliter. However, there's no reliable evidence that iron supplementation is helpful for female pattern hair loss.
Quote:One of the more documented uses of saw palmetto for women is the treatment of hirsutism, a condition in which women have excessive hair growth. Many of these women also have high levels of androgens, male sex hormones. The hair growth tends to follow the same patterns on the body as typical male hair growth, such as the upper lip, breasts, and the back. A standardized extract of saw palmetto taken daily may be beneficial for providing anti-androgenic effects and treating the condition. Moreover, taking saw palmetto for hair growth is possibility beneficial for treating thinning hair on the head.http://www.wisegeek.org/what-are-the-ben...-women.htm
(31-12-2013, 07:37 PM)peggy Wrote: Does it work more anti-androgenic than e.g. Spearmint? I need a supplement that will also help with hair loss.It is possible that sustained daily use of spearmint tea could result in further abatement of hirsutism.In women, hirsutism and male pattern baldness are due to an enhanced effect of androgens on the hair follicle, which in turn can be caused by an increased supply of bio-available androgens and/or an increased sensitivity of the target organ to androgens.
Quote:In women, hirsutism and male pattern baldness are due to an enhanced effect of androgens on the hair follicle, which in turn can be caused by an increased supply of bio-available androgens and/or an increased sensitivity of the target organ to androgens. There are no definite correlations between circulating androgens and the degree of their biological effects. Although in most cases the hyperandrogenemia is not severe, the patients should be treated with antiandrogens in order to avoid progression of the disturbance and its consequences on metabolism and fertility. Sometimes hirsutism can be observed as a clinical sign of a defect in the steroid biosynthesis or of Cushing's syndrome. In severe hyperandrogenemia with a testosterone level of more than 2 ng/ml and a DHEA-S level of more than 8000 ng/ml, tumors of the ovaries or the adrenal glands have to be excluded.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/
(27-12-2013, 02:43 PM)tibetan113 Wrote: read till your eyes bleed.xx