Past programs,


1st was the starter program,

FG, RC, SP, NR

2nd was

PM, PC, Spearmint

3rd

BO, CS, PC, GH, HOPS (limited though)

4th

PM, FG, Spearmint, Hops, PC,

5th

PM/BO, FG, Hops, PC, spearmint

6th

PM, FG, LR, NR, Hops, PABA,

Final

PM (extract), WP, LR, PC, Dandelion

The need to self experiment is evident, without tweaking you may not find out the combinations that could benefit. (Each represents a program reference)

Nice try mod!!!

Past programs,


1st was the starter program,

FG, RC, SP, NR

2nd was

PM, PC, Spearmint

3rd

BO, CS, PC, GH, HOPS (limited though)

4th

PM, FG, Spearmint, Hops, PC,

5th

PM/BO, FG, Hops, PC, spearmint

6th

PM, FG, LR, NR, Hops, PABA,

Final

PM (extract), WP, LR, PC, Dandelion

The need to self experiment is evident, without tweaking you may not find out the combinations that could benefit. (Each represents a program reference)

Nice try mod!!!

Whose PM extract r u using ?

Past programs,


1st was the starter program,

FG, RC, SP, NR

2nd was

PM, PC, Spearmint

3rd

BO, CS, PC, GH, HOPS (limited though)

4th

PM, FG, Spearmint, Hops, PC,

5th

PM/BO, FG, Hops, PC, spearmint

6th

PM, FG, LR, NR, Hops, PABA,

Final

PM (extract), WP, LR, PC, Dandelion

The need to self experiment is evident, without tweaking you may not find out the combinations that could benefit. (Each represents a program reference)

Nice try mod!!!

Whose PM extract r u using ?

Ainterol, (stopped using it a couple of weeks ago though).

Lotus/Roxy Do you had experienced change on your butt with Lr?And Maca influenced the butt growing?


Somebody have an idea for BIGGER results?

Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs

Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

Hmm, so in the long run, its better to try and get the liquid extracts. Not only may it work out less expensive, it will increase the absorbon rate of what we are taking.
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Janet, you have asked the very question that was on my lips. I need to be convinced though that the extract works better. For some unknown reason I have not experienced the same effects with extract against capsules.
My dear friend Myboobs seems to have found otherwise and this could be down to me using standard strength against Xtreme that Myboobs uses.

Janet, you are a cleaver girl and I would love to know what brand and strength you use.

Lots of love
Heather X

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Heather, I don't know about clever ..lol
I`m just using: http://www.ainterol.us/categories/Pueraria-Mirifica/Extract-Liquid/
Although i am taking 6 drops twice daily, I found 3 drops twice daily started to diminish the growing pains.

Lotus would you recommend taking saw palmetto capsules on an empty stomach? the bottle suggests taking with a meal but as i take it at the same time as my pm which i beleive is best taking on an empty stomach i tend to eat a yogurt or something small with it

Lotus would you recommend taking saw palmetto capsules on an empty stomach? the bottle suggests taking with a meal but as i take it at the same time as my pm which i beleive is best taking on an empty stomach i tend to eat a yogurt or something small with it

Side effects for saw palmetto are digestive issues like constipation, vomiting, stomach pains, tarry stools, oily smell, etc, so for these reasons avoid taking on an empty stomach.

Some other things to monitor include, chest pains, insomnia, increased BP and headaches. Avoid anti-coagulants when taking SP.

What other drugs will affect saw palmetto?

Do not take saw palmetto without the advice of a doctor if you are using any of the following medications:

• a blood thinner such as warfarin (Coumadin);
  
• flutamide (Eulexin);
  
• garlic or ginkgo biloba;
  
• birth control pills;
  
• iron supplements such as ferrous fumarate ferrous gluconate, or ferrous sulfate;
  
• hormone replacement therapy;
  
• estrogen or testosterone;
  
• an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) such as ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil), naproxen (Aleve, Naprosyn), diclofenac (Cataflam, Voltaren), etodolac (Lodine), indomethacin (Indocin), ketoprofen (Orudis), and others; or
  
• medication used to prevent blood clots, such as alteplase (Activase), clopidogrel (Plavix), dipyridamole (Persantine), ticlopidine (Ticlid), and urokinase (Abbokinase).
  

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/saw-palmetto.html

Thanks lotus i will continue to take them with food then

Anybody haven't noticed this post?Ahhhhh

Lotus/Roxy or SOMEbody Do you had experienced change on your butt with Lr?And Maca influenced the butt growing?

Somebody have an idea for BIGGER results?

Anybody haven't noticed this post?Ahhhhh

Lotus/Roxy or SOMEbody Do you had experienced change on your butt with Lr?And Maca influenced the butt growing?

Somebody have an idea for BIGGER results?

I did notice, I was trying to find some research other than exercise for more junk in the trunk. Oh plenty of products claiming to do the job, however nothing scientific yet.

And then we have the unhealthy way of just packing on the pounds and letting gravity take it's course.


BUTT
I'll keep looking.....

Vitamins for Getting a Bigger Butt
http://www.livestrong.com/article/489680-vitamins-for-getting-a-bigger-butt/

How to Get a Flat Stomach & a Big Butt
http://www.livestrong.com/article/185645-how-to-get-a-flat-stomach-a-big-butt/