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Red Clover has similer effects than Fenugreek?

I haven't heard that, where's that from?

This is a phytoestrogen too. I don't know.I just asked.

http://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-red-clover.html

Both are phytoestrogens, the descriptions of each will be on the previous posts FAQ, honestly you may not need those at this point.

[Lotus]

I think this illustration shows us for the first time the metabolism of Testosterone affecting both ER-A & ER-B receptors:

[Lotus]

Here's another anti-androgen to consider:


Pumpkin Seed Oil: Has been demonstrated to inhibit DHT formation through the inhibitory effect on 5-alpha-reductase activity. Pumpkin seed oil breaks down DHT via the liver. Also benefiting symptoms of BPH and hair loss.

PUMPKIN
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-810-Pumpkin+Seed+Oil+PUMPKIN.aspx?activeIngredientId=810&activeIngredientName=Pumpkin+Seed+Oil
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PUMPKIN SEEDS
http://herbalsafety.utep.edu/herbs-pdfs/pumpkin.pdf
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Inhibition of testosterone-induced hyperplasia of the prostate of sprague-dawley rats by pumpkin seed oil. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16822218

We conclude pumpkin seed oil can inhibit testosterone-induced hyperplasia of the prostate and therefore may be beneficial in the management of benign prostatic hyperplasia.
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Pumpkin Seeds & Prostate Cancer
http://www.livestrong.com/article/358475...te-cancer/

[Lotus]

Here's another anti-androgen to consider:


Pumpkin Seed Oil: Has been demonstrated to inhibit DHT formation through the inhibitory effect on 5-alpha-reductase activity. Pumpkin seed oil breaks down DHT via the liver. Also benefiting symptoms of BPH and hair loss.

PUMPKIN
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-810-Pumpkin+Seed+Oil+PUMPKIN.aspx?activeIngredientId=810&activeIngredientName=Pumpkin+Seed+Oil
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PUMPKIN SEEDS
http://herbalsafety.utep.edu/herbs-pdfs/pumpkin.pdf
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Inhibition of testosterone-induced hyperplasia of the prostate of sprague-dawley rats by pumpkin seed oil. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16822218

We conclude pumpkin seed oil can inhibit testosterone-induced hyperplasia of the prostate and therefore may be beneficial in the management of benign prostatic hyperplasia.
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Pumpkin Seeds & Prostate Cancer
http://www.livestrong.com/article/358475...te-cancer/

Also used for scalp, aromatherapy massage (arthritis) and skin care.

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Recently a question came up about the best time to take supplements, I remember I had this info:

General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs

Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

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Also this:

[Lotus]

Past programs with amounts:

1st program,
FG, RC, SP, NR
2nd was
PM, PC, Spearmint
3rd
BO, CS, PC, GH, HOPS (limited though)
4th
PM, FG, Spearmint, Hops, PC,
5th
PM/BO, FG, Hops, PC, spearmint
6th
PM, FG, LR, NR, Hops, PABA,
Final
PM (extract), WP, LR, PC, Dandelion

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Past Program
♦ PM-extract High 120:1 potency 4 drops sublingual, (1 drop is 40 mg) Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen (daidzien)

♦ BO-250 mg 4-ea. daily------------(pro-aromatase, 5-AR inhibiting, estrogenic) alternated

♦ FG -900 mg total am-pm Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen

♦ Hops-310 mg 3x-daily-----------------(activates alpha estrogen receptors, influences prolactin, and increases other estrogenic responses, also interacts with the progesterone receptors)

♦ B 6 - 100 mg daily

♦ Multi Amino-acid 500 mg 2-3x daily-----------(Growth Hormone)

♦ Multivitamin 1x daily

♦ Reishi Mushroom 600 mg 3x daily--------------(5-alpha reductase) Red Reishi-Significantly reduces levels of 5-alpha reductase (DHT)

♦ Licorice Root 450 mg 1x daily 3 days a week (T,TH,Sat)----(pro-aromatase, activates alpha, beta estrogen receptors, blocks 5-ar)

♦ Stinging Nettle Root 500 mg 1 tabs. daily----petitioner(increases estrogen and testosterone) Binds to SHBG

♦ PABA 500 mg 2x-----(Decreases breakdown of estrogen in your body so you have more free estrogen)

♦ Dandelion root-Caps 60 515 mg Caps 1x daily--(upregulates estrogen receptors so your body uses the estrogen you are putting in.)

♦ Progesterone Cream Balances out estrogen, strong 5 alpha reductase (converts T to DHT), adds to breast growth (ducts and elongation) 4 oz Cream- 1/4 teaspoon 4 x weekly

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[Larana]

Hi thank you the answers!This is very complicated system,well i begin to understand why have changed my mind,thinking,behavior so hardly and slowly.

Simplifying:

WP 600 X 2/extract
LC 450 X 1 (still run out)
PM 500 X 3/4

Spearmint/reishi,Pumpkin seed How much dosage?MG/peace/oz

I remembered about spermint,do you know something about that can support the lip growing.(That really works.)
Hyaluronic acid,collagen etc...

[Lotus]

Hi thank you the answers!This is very complicated system,well i begin to understand why have changed my mind,thinking,behavior so hardly and slowly.

Simplifying:

WP 600 X 2/extract
LC 450 X 1 (still run out)
PM 500 X 3/4

Spearmint/reishi,Pumpkin seed How much dosage?MG/peace/oz

I remembered about spermint,do you know something about that can support the lip growing.(That really works.)
Hyaluronic acid,collagen etc...

Hi Larana,

All three are used as anti-androgens, reishi alone is ok, I believe it comes in 600mg, so figure starting at 2x daily and increase as needed. PM, WP, Reishi is all you need to start at this point.

If your looking for something that supports connective tissue and skin elasticity, MSM has those benefits. Collagen and Hyaluronic acid are slightly different, I've seen all them all offered together, it's expensive though, just make sure you check the quality and potency of each.



Here's some info on MSM-

MSM - Methylsulfonylmethane - should be taken internally as a food supplement. MSM is necessary for collagen synthesis: skin, hair and nails. MSM keeps cells from becoming rigid. MSM softens tissue (the beauty mineral), relieves stress, asthma, arthritis, inflammation, constipation, candida, acne, Rosecea, detoxifies the body and increases blood circulation, reduces muscle cramps, and back pain, removes inflammation, permits muscles to heal, increases energy, alertness, mental calmness, and the ability to concentrate.

MSM scavenges free radicals, relieves allergies to food and pollens, helps the liver produce choline, controls acidity in stomach and ulcers, coats intestinal tract so parasites lose ability to hang on, helps with hypersensitivity to drugs, increases body's ability to produce insulin, is important for carbohydrate metabolism, and speeds wound healing.

[Larana]

Thank you all right the problem is this is only 270 mg X( this is few.

Is this good products?

Reishi: http://webshop.drtihanyi.hu/webshop/rei-...-now-100db

hyaluronic acid:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Liquid-Hyaluronic-Acid-Berry-Flavor-100-mg-16-fl-oz-473-ml/39054#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=now%20hyaluronic&rc=65&sr=null&ic=8
(perhaps the pure is much better.)
Collagen:

http://www.iherb.com/Neocell-Fish-Collagen-HA-120-Capsules/16756#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=collagen%20fish&rc=101&sr=null&ic=1