I do have a couple of nagging disquiets. The main one is a fear that overtly public transitions by celebrities might result in an an attitude that 'it's cool to be trans' which could lead to some making 'BIG mistakes' and which might detract from the seriousness of the undertaking. However, if it saves some people who might otherwise have stepped out in front of a train or taken an overdose, then that is probably a price worth paying. As such, I rather hope that when she does 'emerge as a woman', it is not over-hyped.

Miranda

Yeah, there probably WILL be a few that see it as hip and the new trend and will have it done JUST because they think it's cool.

Kari leigh,


I found it to be interesting as far as the timing. Just today I saw my endocrinologist and he prescribed me estradiol transdermal patches and spironolactone which I am grateful to finally get. I'll have to wait about ten days to begin because my VA pharmacy did not have the dosage that was prescribed for me in stock.

But, all things considered I felt that with the interview being so recent that there is a lot more focus on transgender issues. Some good, while others can be cruel and downright hurtful. However, I feel that we are beginning to gain acceptance and finally getting services that were not available just a decade ago.

For me, it became unbearable to fight a battle that I would never win. Being transgender was never my choice, only my birthright. So, after decades of denying myself the right and peace of mind I have come out of the closet and will live the rest of my life trying to be at peace with myself. I think most all of us have this in common. That is, wanting to be at peace with ourselves. Fighting my transgender self only caused me strife and depression. Once I came out, it was as if a ton had been lifted from my shoulders. And, I know a lot of transgender souls cannot come out because of other issues and relationships. But for me, I had to in order to save my life. I think Bruce was in the same frame of mind and finally accepted the fact that being a true transgender is not something that we can just turn off. If that were the case I could have saved thousands of dollars from previous purging to relieve guilt issues that others put on me. I finally decided that other peoples problems with my GID would not become my problem or consequence.

I didn't get to see Letterman's monologue tonight, so I have no idea if he said anything about Bruce tonight. I heard Kimmel and he made a couple of jokes about it and proved be a fucking asshole about it. Right now, James Boylan (I think that's his name), is on and just finished his monologue and he spent a good 2 or 3 minutes talking about how great it was for Bruce to have done that interview!! NO jokes about it at ALL!! But, at the end, he said his wife said to him, after watching the interview, that, now, she has great hope of coming out to wanting to be a man! Lol. So far, he sounds like a class act!!

If anybody wants to see it, albeit on a very tiny screen and with exaggerated sound, here it is.
https://youtu.be/HQDPI5sqI4c

I have not had the chance to view it yet, although its on my PVR so any day now. However my SO has viewed it and mentioned she could see similarities in what Bruce was talking about, and the talks we have had over the past few months. A few of our friends, and family know of my TG feelings, and I know my SO has been having discussions with them over the interview. She has also been talking to other friends who are unawair of my feelings, and had to bite her tongue to stop herself mentioning that "jannet" has those feeling too.

The only fly in the ointment from my end, my SO is worried that with all this new talk, I will be feeling the need to go through SRS . This is something that I do not feel ready for.

There are many misconceptions about transgender people. MtF transsexuals are particularly the victims of these false ideas. For example, assuming that you must be gay. I was glad the Jenner put that nonsense to rest.

Another over arching misconception is that to be a MtF transsexual, a 'sex change' is necessary. Not true. Many trans women have not had bottom surgery for one reason or another, or have had only an orchiectomy.

We need to stop equating one's gender identity with one's sexual physiology. Women can have penises, and men can have vaginas. It's NOT what's between your legs that determines your gender.

Clara

There are many misconceptions about transgender people. MtF transsexuals are particularly the victims of these false ideas. For example, assuming that you must be gay. I was glad the Jenner put that nonsense to rest.

Clara

ABSOLUETLY!!!! The problem is, it's mostly a one way street!! Just like how women are allowed to wear men's clothes, but men aren't allowed to wear women's clothes!! It's PERFECTLY FINE and acceptable for two women to be gay or, even if they AREN'T gay, to dance or even sleep with other, to hold hands in public, and even to kiss each other on the lips!! But, don't EVER, EVER let two GUYS do any of that or they IMMEDIATELY become labeled as gay!! watching two women, even if they AREN'T gay or bi, going at it in a porno is perfectly okay, it's just porn, but if two guys do it, it's GAY porn!!
I'm hoping that, soon, SOME guy will walk around in public even just in a skirt, not even because he's TS, and if someone confronts him about it, he just says, "Bruce Jenner, man!", and walks away!!

Nope. I just saw a dude in a kilt the other day! No issues, no one cares!

why??? Expression! Because it's how you wear the clothing!

Men wear skirts, dresses or tunics in other countrieS for centuries, but there's no bold feminist expression behind it.

Nope. I just saw a dude in a kilt the other day! No issues, no one cares!

why??? Expression! Because it's how you wear the clothing!

Men wear skirts, dresses or tunics in other countrieS for centuries, but there's no bold feminist expression behind it.

I saw a guy in a kilt yesterday, too, but, it's a kilt, not exactly a skirt. Had he worn a skirt associated with women, there MIGHT'VE been things said!
I wore a skirt to work one day a few years ago in honour of my singer that had just died and had a few people comment on it and 3 people raise a stink about it!! One was making loud gay remarks while we were both in line at a store! Had I been wearing a kilt, I doubt I would've gotten more than a few comments. My cousin, Bob, who went to Carnegie Tech back in the `50's, and was a member of their kiltie band, still wears a kilt every so often to this day!! He's in his early 80's.

It isn't the clothes per se, it's the message they send. The message you're sending threatens the privileged status of being male.

One friend who were bold enough to voice his objections to my decision to transition genders (and who was smart enough to interpret his feelings) questioned why I wanted to give up something so valuable as being a man in our society. "Why humiliate yourself in this way?"

This devaluation of femininity still runs rampant in our culture, even among many feminists.

Clara