(21-06-2015, 06:41 AM)WantAPair Wrote: We had this discussion, per se, a few weeks ago, it got pretty nasty!!
Some think it's only being done for fame and money. Some, surprisingly, even a few of those that frequent THIS site, think no matter happens, it'll ALWAYS be Bruce and will never be a woman! And that he's not a hero for coming out about it.
::Steps back a bit to watch the shit fly!:: :-o
Part of why I started this one and limited the scope of the discussion.
I did not care for the sewer that thread became.
(22-06-2015, 10:28 PM)kari leigh Wrote: I have about 100 Facebook friends and most could be classified as conservative, Christian, fundamentalists to some degree or another. That, by the way, is the group I USED to run with until being transgender slapped me in the face! Karma right? So, to answer your question Lenneth, 3-4 dude's I know are having a lot of fun at Caitlyn's expense. For example, one posted a picture of a puppy with the caption, "BRUCE Jenner's cat". While they aren't hateful comments, they're certainly full of condescension and ridicule. I'm not out 100%, and certainly not on Facebook, so I've been biting my tongue ...very hard! Everyone in my workplace knows about me so if they had negative things to say, which I don't think any of them do, they wouldn't mention them in my presence.
yeah that kind of stuff is some of the negative comments i've heard/seen as well.
my own mother had a little tirade (don't ask I wont repeat it) a few months back just about some T-girls her employer hired and I blew a gasket over it (in front of a dinner guest to) and am honestly shocked that I didn't out myself.
Sometimes you can only stand to hear so much before a proverbial nuke goes off.
(22-06-2015, 10:28 PM)kari leigh Wrote: Our Church (fundamental, conservative & evangelical) announced shortly after the Diane Sawyer interview, that the elder board was going to craft a "transgender position statement", probably in response to all the people calling the office asking, "what are we supposed to think of this?" Who knows what their presuppositions are. Perhaps they WANT to be OK with Caitlyn but are checking to see what the, "Church says". Perhaps they are bigots who want the church to support their opposition. Either way, I think it's a shame they can't figure out their own opinion without consulting 12 cis gendered males and a predominantly male gendered pastoral team. I'm all but certain the statement will read something like this, "It's OK to have transgender feelings, just don't do anything about it (hormones, surgery, dressing etc)." I was going to fight it but gave up because it caused me too much stress at a time when I have enough battles to fight with my own personal coming out.
yeah similar issues with my own church, Gender Issues = Verboten/Taboo/Uber Stigma with similar restrictions etc if they don't just up and completely expel you.
some actually research things & try to understand, others just have a variable knee jerk annurisim over anything like that (usually the Gossips & ones that pretend to be rich) and will try to verbally drag you through the mud endlessly.
part of why I haven't told anyone & tend to be a tad paranoid about anyone linking anything back to me.
it's not really my religion itself that has the problem though, it is just some of the brainless bigots that seem to gravitate to it.
back on Caitlyn though, today I actually heard a local radio talk show host (male) verbally rip other hosts (2 were women fyi) a new one for their idiotic regurgitated bad jokes about her.
I was impressed to say the least.
on my own dealings with people on the subject though, when asked anything about it I simply answer.
"Is it Intentionally causing harm to someone else?" when they say No/well, I guess not I finish "then what is the problem with it?" usually leaves them nowhere to go or makes them think.