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Hrt (Pharmacokinetics)

#31

(07-09-2015, 07:08 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote:  wheres my bloody email!

Big Grin

(07-09-2015, 11:04 AM)bobie Wrote:  Lotus do you think that finasteride can raise prolactin by the effect finasteride has on dopamine?

Great question,

Yes I do, I also see black cohosh doing this too. If you happen to notice depression, mood swings, lack of attention, weight gain, this is a sign of too much prolactin siganaling is going on. Here's a quick fix imo to get you out of the dumps:

Fish Oil- can increase free T (total T too) by way of increased Luteinizing Hormone (LH) production. (Low dose) maybe 1000 mg.

Coconut oil- (1-2 tablespoons)

If you look at the research (and I mean all of it, lol) coconut oil it does many of the things we'd want for NBE/Hrt. Linoleic acid (Omega 6) can increase serotonin-dependent disorders such as migraine. while C.O. relaxes red blood cells. Adding CO helps to raise body temp and thyroid function.

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#32

I see BO doing this too. I think it's reasonable to hypothesize that prolactin widens areolas. There is no clear cut evidence as of yet, however, from our own BN members experiences we can draw this conclusion. (Just my opinion, FWIW) Big Grin
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#33

(07-09-2015, 09:42 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
(07-09-2015, 11:04 AM)bobie Wrote:  Lotus do you think that finasteride can raise prolactin by the effect finasteride has on dopamine?

Great question,

Yes I do, I also see black cohosh doing this too. If you happen to notice depression, mood swings, lack of attention, weight gain, this is a sign of too much prolactin siganaling is going on. Here's a quick fix imo to get you out of the dumps:

Fish Oil- can increase free T (total T too) by way of increased Luteinizing Hormone (LH) production. (Low dose) maybe 1000 mg.

Coconut oil- (1-2 tablespoons)

If you look at the research (and I mean all of it, lol) coconut oil it does many of the things we'd want for NBE/Hrt. Linoleic acid (Omega 6) can increase serotonin-dependent disorders such as migraine. while C.O. relaxes red blood cells. Adding CO helps to raise body temp and thyroid function.

That could explain almost a 20% size gain of my areola's, just since I started Finn and Spiro 3 and 4 months ago. But, I have not gained weight. Of course about a month before the meds change, I started the balanced Omega's at your suggestion
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#34

(07-09-2015, 10:17 PM)iaboy Wrote:  
(07-09-2015, 09:42 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
(07-09-2015, 11:04 AM)bobie Wrote:  Lotus do you think that finasteride can raise prolactin by the effect finasteride has on dopamine?

Great question,

Yes I do, I also see black cohosh doing this too. If you happen to notice depression, mood swings, lack of attention, weight gain, this is a sign of too much prolactin siganaling is going on. Here's a quick fix imo to get you out of the dumps:

Fish Oil- can increase free T (total T too) by way of increased Luteinizing Hormone (LH) production. (Low dose) maybe 1000 mg.

Coconut oil- (1-2 tablespoons)

If you look at the research (and I mean all of it, lol) coconut oil it does many of the things we'd want for NBE/Hrt. Linoleic acid (Omega 6) can increase serotonin-dependent disorders such as migraine. while C.O. relaxes red blood cells. Adding CO helps to raise body temp and thyroid function.

That could explain almost a 20% size gain of my areola's, just since I started Finn and Spiro 3 and 4 months ago. But, I have not gained weight. Of course about a month before the meds change, I started the balanced Omega's at your suggestion

Good point,

Its been mentioned on the WWW that spiro does affect prolactin too, XXD(chemist) said that spiro can feminize, I think dutaseride has a stronger case than that of spiro. I also think that when you mix glucocorticoids with pharma AA's that it intensifies their affects. LH (lutenzing hormone) and HPA axis can lower testosterone production through adernals. That leaves androgen production from testes (@ 95%) the nut (spelled-phun lmao) to crack. So, in other words, androgens can be lowered in the adrenals, testes, skin, brain, prostate. Using rate limiting AA's will undoubtedly feminize.

Edit- I should add that androgens are present in the blood too.
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#35

Lotus, I think you have confirmed what I had been thinking. I am starting to develop some hips, as well as breasts too. That could be why eh??
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#36

(07-09-2015, 10:45 PM)iaboy Wrote:  Lotus, I think you have confirmed what I had been thinking. I am starting to develop some hips, as well as breasts too. That could be why eh??

No doubt,

If you cover those 5-6 bases (androgen production) you likely have more success.
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#37

(07-09-2015, 10:48 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
(07-09-2015, 10:45 PM)iaboy Wrote:  Lotus, I think you have confirmed what I had been thinking. I am starting to develop some hips, as well as breasts too. That could be why eh??

No doubt,

If you cover those 5-6 bases (androgen production) you likely have more success.

This post #2658 covers more of what's being said here.
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=17436&page=266

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#38

Something odd, I'm less interested in my own personal progress as opposed to be in la-la science land, wtf????. I think I'm losing it TongueBig Grin
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#39

(07-09-2015, 10:57 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Something odd, I'm less interested in my own personal progress as opposed to be in la-la science land, wtf????. I think I'm losing it TongueBig Grin

Not by the looks of your last boobie shots. Tongue
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#40

(07-09-2015, 11:04 PM)iaboy Wrote:  
(07-09-2015, 10:57 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Something odd, I'm less interested in my own personal progress as opposed to be in la-la science land, wtf????. I think I'm losing it TongueBig Grin

Not by the looks of your last boobie shots. Tongue

O, those things? I forgot. Blush see...I'm telling you (lol) I've lost my reality. Tongue

For instance, I'm sitting here thinking when DHT is lowered more estrogen can flourish. Cause that's what DHT does (prevent estrogen).
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