[JennaSkye]

My original name here was Katrina, then switched to Hurricane, now it's SkyeBlu82.
I am condensing all of my posts down into a single post, so others and myself can track my progress.

Brands Used:
Ainterol | Pueraria Mirifica R1 500mg Capsules
Website: PM

Iowa Select Herbs LLC | White Peony Extract | Liquid
Website: WP

Nature's Way | Fenugreek Seed | 610mg Capsules
Website: FG

Pure Health Trends | Natural Progesterone Cream: USP Pharmaceutical Grade | 24mg/pump
Website: PC

RiteAid | Prenatal Formula with Folic Acid | Multi-Vitamin
Website: RiteAid

Metagenics | Wellness Essentials | Multi-Vitamin
Website: Metagenics

Doctors Best | Saw Palmetto Standardized Extract | 320mg Capsules
Website: Saw Palmetto

Swanson | Full Spectrum Spearmint Leaf | 400mg Capsules
Website: Spearmint

Weight: 145lbs
Height: 5'10"

Date: December 12th, 2013 (start)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 1,000mg/d (0mg AM, 1,000mg PM)
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Chest: Completely flat. No muscle or gynecomastia.

Date: December 13th, 2013
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 2,000mg/d (1,000 AM, 1,000 PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• None
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• None
  

Date: December 17th, 2013 (1 week)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,000mg AM, 2,000mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• Added: Metagenics Multi-Vitamin: 1 Pack AM
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Wife noticed pointy nipples.
  
• Feeling sick to my stomach as soon as I got to work.
  

Date: December 20th, 2013
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,500mg AM, 1,500mg PM)
  
• SP: 960mg/d (360mg AM, 360mg Midday, 360mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• Added: Saw Palmetto
  
• Removed: Metagenics Multi-Vitamin because I was getting sick from not eating anything in the AM.
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Mentally feeling calmer. Had a long talk w/wife and didn't feel like running away.
  
• No tears, but close.
  

Date: January 10th, 2014
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,500mg AM, 1,500mg PM)
  
• SP: 960mg/d (360mg AM, 360mg Midday, 360mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• None
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Nipple discharge from both nipples when pressing about 1 1/2-2" above areola.
  

Date: January 20th, 2014 (1 month)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,000mg AM, 1,000mg Midday, 1,000mg PM)
  
• SP: 960mg/d (360mg AM, 360mg Midday, 360mg PM)
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• I am easily able to notice when I'm upset and can quickly dissipate my temper before I get mad.
  
• I now have a large bump behind both nipples that are about 1.5" diameter
  
• Can no longer wear t-shirts
  
• Although my weight hasn't gone up, my size 32 waist is now a tight 32.
  
• Morning erections seized.
  
• Pain behind the nipple.
  

Date: Feburary 26th, 2014 (2 months)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,000mg AM, 1,000mg Midday, 1,000mg PM)
  
• SP: 960mg/d (360mg AM, 180mg Midday, 180mg PM)
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Chest sensitivity has been pretty intense.
  
• I haven't raised my voice since right around the time I started PM (yelling from anger).
  
• I have noticed an accumulation of fat around my stomach, but I haven't gained weight.
  
• My pants have "shrunk" over the last month to the point where I have to really pull them up to clasp them shut.
  
• No tears yet, but am ready for them.
  

Date: March 9th, 2014 (3 months)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,000mg AM, 1,000mg Midday, 1,000mg PM)
  
• SP: 960mg/d (360mg AM, 180mg Midday, 180mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• None
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Really questioning my motives and want/need to take the herbal medicine.
  
• My chest hasn't hurt for a month and a half or more and I can't hardly feel any buds anymore, unless I press hard i just feel fatty tissue.
  
• "Last week I've been feeling an immensely increasing urge to dress up, I've been getting the morning jingles and tingles and the thought of masturbation has come back."
  
• "I can feel myself on edge and ready to snap, and feelings of anger and holding grudges has returned."
  Interesting quote that post: "I know there are different levels of GD, I still don't know where I fall in that.. Maybe the black and white I thought I believed is more gray than I could've imagined."
  
• "I was in target today with my wife. I wanted so badly to go to the women's section and buy something, but felt uneasy about it and not an aisle seat, I turned and went to checkout without a word to my wife. Standing in checkout, I was mad at her for not picking up on my non hints. I have also noticed that.. I've always been a VERY direct person. Not known to beat around the bush. But I've been doing these ridiculous "hints" to my wife. And getting upset when she wouldn't pick up on them saying she doesn't care about me.. Freaking odd.."
  
• "I started thinking about the last time I looked in my closet at my guy clothes.. I thought how boring they are and how amazingly awesome girls clothes are.. The layers and the contests and beautiful colors.. Why isn't every guy jealous??"
  

Date: May 5th, 2014 (5 months)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,000mg AM, 1,000mg Midday, 1,000mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• Removed: Saw Palmetto
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• My desires to cross dress have come back in full swing and I'm wanting sex almost every night.
  
• I'm dropping caffeine as much as possible and sugar as well. I inhale a ton of both on a daily basis.
  

Measured my chest and the results are:

• Under: 32"
  
• Bust: 37 1/2"
  
• Right: 8.25"
  
• Left: 8.25"
  

Date: June 15th, 2014 (6 months)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• None
  

Medication Changes:

• Removed: All medications
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Freaked out and stopped all medications for around 3 weeks.
  

Date: June, 2015 (1.5 years)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,500mg AM, 1,500mg PM)
  
• WP: One full dropper sublingual (non-consistent)
  
• FG: 2440mg/d (1220mg AM, 1220mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• Added: WP, FG
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• 2015: No changes or anything really for almost a year. Lots of issues w/my marriage. It has pretty much dissolved. Asked wife to leave mid year.
  

Date: September, 2015 (1.75 years)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 3,000mg/d (1,500mg AM, 1,500mg PM)
  
• WP: One full dropper sublingual (non-consistent)
  
• FG: 2440mg/d (1220mg AM, 1220mg PM)
  
• PC: Random Times (non-consistent)
  

Medication Changes:

• Added: PC
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Chest Measurement:
  
• Under Snug = 34"
  
• Under Tight = 31"
  
• Across Standing = 37"
  
• Bent Over @ 90° = 37.5"
  
• Laying on my Back = 37"
  
• Been wearing a GenieBra every day for almost the whole year to hide prominent chest.
  

Date: December 18th, 2015 (2 years)
Herbal/Synthetic Meds:

• PM: 1,000mg/d (500mg AM, 500mg PM)
  
• Spironolactone: 100mg/d (50mg AM, 50mg PM)
  
• Finasteride: 5mg/d (2.5mg AM, 2.5mg PM)
  

Medication Changes:

• Dropped PM to 1,000mg/d (500mg AM, 500mg PM)
  
• Removed: WP
  
• Added: Spironolactone (Prescription)
  
• Added: Finasteride (Prescription)
  

Changes & Random Thoughts:

• Got baseline blood tests done.
  
• Dr. says I can start estradiol 2 weeks after I've been taking 100mg spiro to monitor side effects.
  

Test Results:

• Baseline:
  ESTRADIOL
  Mine: <20 pg/mL
  Normal: <47 pg/mL
  
  TESTOSTERONE,TOT SRM
  Mine: 211.49 ng/dL
  Normal: 241.00 - 827.00 ng/dL
  
  ALT (GPT)
  Mine: 32 U/L
  Normal: 17 - 63 U/L
  
  AST(GOT)
  Mine: 31 U/L
  Normal: 15 - 41 U/L
  
  GLUCOSE
  Mine: 86 mg/dL
  Normal: 60 - 99 mg/dL
  
  HCT
  Mine: 45.7%
  Normal: 39.0 - 51.0%
  
  POTASSIUM
  Mine: 4.4 mEq/L
  Normal: 3.6 - 5.2 mEq/L
  
  PROLACTIN
  Mine: 10.7 ng/mL
  Normal: 2.6 - 13.1 ng/mL
  
  LIPID PROFILE:
  CHOLESTEROL
  Mine: 190 mg/dL
  Normal: 0 - 200 mg/dL
  
  TRIGLYCERIDES
  Mine: 366 mg/dL
  Normal: 0 - 150 mg/dL
  
  HDL CHOLESTEROL
  Mine: 63 mg/dL
  Normal: 40 - 59 mg/dL
  
  LDL (CALC)
  Mine: 54 mg/dL
  Normal: 0 - 129 mg/dL
  <100 Optimal
  100-129 Near or above optimal
  130-159 Borderline high
  160-189 High
  >189 Very high
  
  CHOL/HDL RATIO
  Mine: 3.0
  Normal: 0.0 - 6.7
  
  TRIG/HDL (CALC)
  Mine: 5.8
  
  NON-HDL (CALC)
  Mine: 127 mg/dL
  
  5 A DIHYDROTESTOSTERONE BY TMS
  Mine: 469.0 pg/mL
  Normal: 106.0 - 719.0 pg/mL
  

[Marcy]

Wow.... that's an intense journey. You seem glad to be back! I'm definitely interested in following your progress and wish you all kinds of success.

[JennaSkye]

Wow.... that's an intense journey. You seem glad to be back! I'm definitely interested in following your progress and wish you all kinds of success.

Thanks MarcyAno. It has definitely been a rollercoaster, that's for sure! I made tons of mistakes, as you can see from the amounts taken and constant herbal changes above. Some of those above aren't correct. I only had a limited amount of documented history, the rest was memory. I constantly switched herbs in attempt to speed things up. I regret that, and should have listened to and followed more of the suggestions that were given to me. If I could do it over... I would have just made the doctor appointment and talked to him from the beginning, getting on a monitored plan. I figured by going the herbal route, I could take things slowly and discretely, stopping if I felt I wanted to.

1,000mg/d of PM and WP extract honestly worked the best for me. I kept pushing 3,000mg, thinking more is better. I have decent results to show for the last two years, but I am almost certain it could have been better.

I've been contemplating posting a before/after to show progress, but still haven't decided. We'll see.

Progress update:

I'm at 1 week today since switching over to Spiro/finasteride/PM. I am only going to take the PM until the last of this bottle. Probably another 7-10 days @ 1,000mg/d split. A few days ago, I randomly cried about really nothing. Was watching "127 hours" and just started crying. It lasted about two minutes and I was fine. Other than that, my mood has been all over the place. Cranky and bitchy would be two good words to describe it. Probably just the change in meds is doing it, I don't know. I am able to control my anger, so if I get mad, I can realize it and stop before bursting. Yesterday I noticed for the first time I was able to just not be mad anymore and move on without pouting. Maybe placebo.. That's about it. Chest is still sore, but has been for most of the last two years.

Thank you for replying! Merry Christmas everyone!

[Marcy]

Sorry to hear about the outburst. That sounds distressing! Are you happy with your progress? I understand you think you could have had more but things unfold on their own schedule. I really believe it is a journey worth taking. Best wishes for a growth filled 2016!

[JennaSkye]

Sorry to hear about the outburst. That sounds distressing! Are you happy with your progress? I understand you think you could have had more but things unfold on their own schedule. I really believe it is a journey worth taking. Best wishes for a growth filled 2016!

I am pretty happy with the progress while I was on PM. My last pill was sometime last week and yesterday I noticed I have VERY little soreness in my chest. That's new. For the last two years, it was consistently sore almost the whole time. I'm not on estrogen yet, so I'm HOPING that will pick up again once I am. Thank you for responding.