Hello all!
This is my first post here after having been lurking for some time already, and having decided to finally get an account and join the community. I have always found this place to be an extremely valuable resource for finding info on NBE, particularly on how to start, what dosages to begin with, etc.
Before going any further, however, I will go over a bit of myself. I'm a 22yo male, in college. I believe I may have been been trans from a very early age, having discovered it until recently, after connecting many many dots scattered all across my life. I have always been tormented by the rampant toxic masculinity that we have poisoning our society, and particularly with my endomorph body build, which, at least for me, as weird as it may sound, feels like my body/genes betraying me. Despite this, I do not plan to pursue transition or anything that comprehensive; however, when I came across this site, and found out about the wealth of information there was on growing breasts as a male, I immediately wanted to try it, as it could potentially allow me to feel better with myself, while also having control over the process.
I started a program after some research last year, and maintained it for 4 months. Around two months in, I had already formed hard knots under my nipples, and by the third month, they were fairly puffy. By the fourth month, though, I began having very tiny amounts of fluid come out of both nipples. At this point, I decided to pause my program indefinitely, as I did not know if all those things were supposed to set in that quickly. At its peak, this program was as follows:
6x500mg PM
6x540mg Red Clover
10x160mg Saw Palmetto
*spread across morning and night
By the beginning of the last month in that run, I came across several posts in this forum stating that Saw Palmetto may have been a goto anti-androgen in the past, but that by now, it was now known that it might do more harm than good, so I decided to entirely remove SP, and replace it with 2x600mg of White Peony. I did not really get to see what kind of differences there would be in effects, as I discontinued the program in less than a month after that. Most of the changes slowly completely reverted over the next two months or so.
Now, since December, I decided to start once more, using the revised program that I had when I paused before, which is as follows:
6x500mg PM
6x540mg Red Clover
2x600mg White Peony
*spread across morning and night
I'm close to my third month on this run, and not much has happened, when, on the old run, by now I already had knots under my nipples. I know this is my first post, and I am yet to get to know y'all, but, besides my introduction post, I would also like to take this chance to ask a question, just in case someone that has more experience might be able to respond. Has SP truly been found to do more harm than good, and is no longer recommended as an anti-androgen? And, if so, was White Peony the right choice, and is the dosage good?
Thanks!
This is my first post here after having been lurking for some time already, and having decided to finally get an account and join the community. I have always found this place to be an extremely valuable resource for finding info on NBE, particularly on how to start, what dosages to begin with, etc.
Before going any further, however, I will go over a bit of myself. I'm a 22yo male, in college. I believe I may have been been trans from a very early age, having discovered it until recently, after connecting many many dots scattered all across my life. I have always been tormented by the rampant toxic masculinity that we have poisoning our society, and particularly with my endomorph body build, which, at least for me, as weird as it may sound, feels like my body/genes betraying me. Despite this, I do not plan to pursue transition or anything that comprehensive; however, when I came across this site, and found out about the wealth of information there was on growing breasts as a male, I immediately wanted to try it, as it could potentially allow me to feel better with myself, while also having control over the process.
I started a program after some research last year, and maintained it for 4 months. Around two months in, I had already formed hard knots under my nipples, and by the third month, they were fairly puffy. By the fourth month, though, I began having very tiny amounts of fluid come out of both nipples. At this point, I decided to pause my program indefinitely, as I did not know if all those things were supposed to set in that quickly. At its peak, this program was as follows:
6x500mg PM
6x540mg Red Clover
10x160mg Saw Palmetto
*spread across morning and night
By the beginning of the last month in that run, I came across several posts in this forum stating that Saw Palmetto may have been a goto anti-androgen in the past, but that by now, it was now known that it might do more harm than good, so I decided to entirely remove SP, and replace it with 2x600mg of White Peony. I did not really get to see what kind of differences there would be in effects, as I discontinued the program in less than a month after that. Most of the changes slowly completely reverted over the next two months or so.
Now, since December, I decided to start once more, using the revised program that I had when I paused before, which is as follows:
6x500mg PM
6x540mg Red Clover
2x600mg White Peony
*spread across morning and night
I'm close to my third month on this run, and not much has happened, when, on the old run, by now I already had knots under my nipples. I know this is my first post, and I am yet to get to know y'all, but, besides my introduction post, I would also like to take this chance to ask a question, just in case someone that has more experience might be able to respond. Has SP truly been found to do more harm than good, and is no longer recommended as an anti-androgen? And, if so, was White Peony the right choice, and is the dosage good?
Thanks!