07-05-2016, 12:30 AM
just came across this article... very disheartening
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/05/02...amendment/
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/05/02...amendment/
(07-05-2016, 02:58 PM)jamiemason Wrote: TG issues in America are far from being under control. It makes me wonder if TG people just came along - or, if we have always been there peeing right next to you, you never knew it????
I just will never understand the stupidity of some.. (sigh)
@ScarletBloom:
Totally agree..
(08-05-2016, 05:57 AM)Dianna1395 Wrote:(07-05-2016, 02:58 PM)jamiemason Wrote: TG issues in America are far from being under control. It makes me wonder if TG people just came along - or, if we have always been there peeing right next to you, you never knew it????
I just will never understand the stupidity of some.. (sigh)
@ScarletBloom:
Totally agree..
My understanding is, we've always been around.
However, we've never had the opportunity to express ourselves (much) in Judaeo-Christian societies until sometime after 1950s. (I am of course excluding cross-gender behavior in gay culture, which may or may not have had any connection to transgender activity.)
Crossdressing predates, and that part is known.... So maybe I just contradicted myself? Dunno - I figure it's all speculation.
What I can tell is, men don't like to unknowingly have sex with men. Most will see even a post-op T-gurl (spelling intentional) as "a man" in this context. Now we can go stealth.... It's seen as deception. Never mind that there have ALWAYS been women who couldn't bear children! (It's the deception aspect, I think.)
Personally, I believe we've always been around. Too many stories, legends, even goddesses. (Hermaphrodite from Greek; Aphrodite was a goddess, but maybe there's more to the stories...?)
But since we can now make the body change to match the mind, we have OPTIONS that didn't exist before.
Imagine a world where you can't change body to match mind. Where mental illness is a mark of God's hatred or the Devil's work. And where homosexuality is also evil and demonic or devilish.
I don't think many people worry about the "oddities" the same way we police ourselves now. Someone who is odd? Leaves by choice or is driven out. (One of the reasons carnies have such a bad reputation... Travellers of that sort were often aberrant in other ways, too, and used their nomadic lifestyle to escape prosecution. Others were "odd" and so chased away. Some were psychopaths.... )
Problem is, at an animal level, people think all "deviations" are automatically a problem (I.E., all "blacks" are psychopaths, to make the point. Like how gingers have no soul, all Irish - that's me - are drunks, etc.) They don't differentiate between the brainiac who does double integral calculus in his head for fun, and the retarded 30-year-old Ox-in-a-human-body who could pass for Superman (in the bad way, as in Lenny in "Of Mice and Men"), and Hannibal Lecter.... In fact, they'll welcome Hannibal longer, because the psychopath plays to people's emotions. SEEMS normal...
"Normal" people see our oddities - tics, enhanced chests, shaving our legs, avoiding "manly" activities, no interest in sports, etc - and think we've got some sort of "disease" they need to keep away from loved ones to keep the herd safe.
I feel it is essential to pity these people. Forgive them their idiocies. Until they try to impose their will on us, and then all bets are off. I have rights, too, and chief among them is right to life. And right to self-defense. And if the result is you DON'T get to live? You instigated.
All I want from them in return is the same tolerance and compassion. For example, gay partners couldn't see their partner in the hospital. WTF? Why not? couldn't be recognized as a spouse for inheritance reasons. Why not? WHAT purpose does this sort of abuse serve? (Insert anti-government / self-ownership rant here.)
OTOH, calling the relationship "marriage" cheapens and dilutes the intent and meaning of marriage (the purpose is to from a stable relationship to have children. Gay relations cannot have children, therefore... And while history may have been altered through surrogacy and artificial insemination, I don't see a reason to redefine the term marriage. But for god's sake, don't treat them like lepers, either! Have compassion. Isn't that a primary tenet of Christianity? Are these people not FAILING that key tenet through their actions? )
Our society needs to grow up a lot. But forcing it (I.E., Leftist ideology to MANDATE "respect" - the same as having someone put a gun to your head, and telling you, "Respect me now." - where respect is measured as adulation & worship?) That is complete idiocy, too. Makes for more problems, like, oh, REVOLUTION....? War, Anarchy in the warring states concept...
-Dianna