[Billie]

Without Obamacare I would have no healthcare and no breasts. Trump has vowed to dump Obamacare. To me I have no breasts and no healthcare with out Hillary. This is the time to Vote Hillary and talk to your friends about transexual needs of healthcare and boobs.

[Lotus]

Obamacare raised health premiums (almost immediately, before it even took effect). Thousands (200k or more) were eliminated from their health plans (most with short notice). So, no.....Obamacare and Hillary don't give a shit about yours or anybody's else's boobs, (neither does the Donald).

Hillary = boobs .......interesting campaign slogan if she did.

[Billie]

Obamacare raised health premiums (almost immediately, before it even took effect). Thousands (200k or more) were eliminated from their health plans (most with short notice). So, no.....Obamacare and Hillary don't give a shit about yours or anybody's else's boobs, (neither does the Donald).

Hillary = boobs .......interesting campaign slogan if she did.

Hillary is a woman who will keep inexpensive psychological care and healthcare available. Healthcare and Medicare will be destroyed under Trump.

I had the option of Cobra or Obamacare. I got PPO Blue Cross and it saved my life. It is not cheap. But is the best choice I had. 600 vs 200 a month..

[Dynseli]

Bill and Hillary did a lot to get Medicare and Medicaid passed, with some non-partisan assistance. That helped a lot of people. Obamacare is another story, however.

[Lotus]

This thread is quite pointless in a breast growing forum. BN is usually free from outside politics, (with a few exceptions). All this does is draw lines between members, (ah but I responded too smacking hands, bad lotus).

Politics raise cortisol/stress........aka-NBE killers.

[OnMyWay!]

I have spent three hours trying to write this. A good bit of time with tears.

I really cannot stand low-information people/voters. Those who totally refuse to learn on their own, and expect some kind of media platform to keep them informed of the truth.

You can have all the socialism, free healthcare, free food (if any food at all is available), free toilet paper until it runs out, free anything your little ole heart desires - move to Venezuela, but I would guess you wouldn't have the guts, because you are way to lazy to put in the effort to move, and a coward at heart. I've been there. Been to Columbia, and every other shit-hole this world has to offer. They all have one single thing in common. A socialistic and dictatorship form of oppressive government. One where the government believes you low-information types are why too stupid to think on you own.

While there are many issues to discuss as to how we may try to improve this country, which is known ANY where on this earth just by the simple colors of our flag, and the knowledge of everywhere that flag flies, everyone believes it only represents one thing - and that's freedom, freedom of the human will. (Well, at least everyone how isn't on a jehad. And yes, I have dealt with them too.) I have bleed, endured extreme hardship, and risked my life, even held friends as they took their last breath, all because there was a hope of helping another human being who may receive the right to enjoy some simple human peace and enjoyment with the hope, that by some miracle, another place might emerge where LIFE, LIBERTY and HAPPINESS may be achieved.

There is also one special thing that every shit-hole in the world has in common with each other - that is a Clinton has f***ed the country up, starting with good ole Billy Boy. For the low-information types, it was Pres. Billy-boy Clinton who decided that we would use our military might to begin a mission of "Nation Building." It didn't work in Somalia, nor Croatia, nor Bosnia, nor Iran, nor ...

If you have NEVER been thanked from any oppressed person from any corner of the world for enabling some resemblance of LIFE, LIBERTY, and allowing them to PERSUE HAPPINESS for ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, you will not be able to comprehend any of what I am talking about. Unless otherwise, you understand and desire to preserve a State which is governed by a representation of the populous, where as not any special single interest group has power over another; where individuals rise to support the whole; eliminate the oppressions of a "Nanny State"; allow for individual success without overbearing taxation; allow for the freedom of self-expression; you potentially fail to understand what any sort of freedom is.

If we all seek to establish LIFE, LIBERTY and HAPPINESS, and not fight about who can control the most "stuff", we will all live a more happier life. Especially those of us who desire to live as we see ourselves, both on the inside and on the outside.

Sorry for the rant. But low-information types need to be educated somehow. I am totally unable to figure out how, other than tell people the way it really is by what I have witnessed.

Oh, buy the way, "Lock Her Up!"

[going no where]

I wholeheartedly agree with @onmyway. It truly scares the hell out of me all of these people who seem to want to embrace socialism with open arms . I'll just make two points. If you want to learn the real ambitions of hillary clinton you only need to watch clintons cash on youtube. Its like an hour long but well worth it. She is a crook, plain and simple.
Secondly, obamacare is a failed idea and is helping noone. Its only destroying lives as is the case with most failed liberal ideas. The obamacare exchange has failed in his own home state of illinois just a week ago. I know this personally because I have a family member who received a letter last week indicating they are no longer insured. https://www.atr.org/illinois-obamacare-c...h-collapse.

[Dynseli]

That kind of thinking is especially not one to call others low information voters.

[OnMyWay!]

Bill and Hillary did a lot to get Medicare and Medicaid passed, with some non-partisan assistance. That helped a lot of people. Obamacare is another story, however.

I have to assume that Billy and Hilary got that passed at the same time Al Gore invented and rolled out the Internet.

My point is well made. Thank you @Dynseli.

[spanky (aka Lola)]

I did not want threads like this on this board. It will prove very corrosive over time. But since everyone has chimed in, and with so much misinformation and with so many opinions with which I strongly disagree, that I am going to respond.

The facts are well established that overall, health care cost escalation dropped very significantly once the ACA ("Obamacare) was enacted. That includes health insurance premia. There is no real debate about this.

http://obamacarefacts.com/wp-content/upl...emiums.gif

Just this year, rate and cost increases began to rise again to the level that existed in the years preceding Obama's first term. The ACA is not the cause of this increase, but rather it is due to a number of other factors.

The hatred of Hillary is extremely difficult for me to understand. You don't have to love her. Very few do. But the "lock her up" rants make no sense whatsoever. Because the chaotic arguments people make on the subject seem so irrational, and are never based on facts, logic or sound legal analysis, it seems to me that it reflects a deep seated dislike for women with power in this country.

Blaming Bill Clinton for "nation building" is an interesting if inaccurate spin on history, it has little to do with Hillary. And it certainly does not justify incarceration. Passions on the subject, particularly here, are way higher than is warranted.