[QueenKoi]

Hi there!

I was on PM for about two months last year and stopped due to sleepiness, headaches, nasuea and concerns about the safety of it; I grew buds the size of a large cherry, kind of disc shaped in each breast and they never went away. I have my upcoming gender appointment at my local specialist soon (hoping for HRT - been waiting for years) so I thought I'd give PM another twirl to see how my body would react - I enjoyed the mental side of it more originally.

It's been about six days now since I started pm again (650-1250mg ramping up) per day and my breast buds have mostly flattened and it feels much spongier - my nipples have visible flattened from a side profile? I absolutely sure i'm not imagining it. I'm also getting those same headaches and weird heart fluctuations I had before. Any ideas?

I'll likely be stopping now until my appointment/hrt start.

Hope you're all well!

Koi

[jannet.duff]

Hi there!

I was on PM for about two months last year and stopped due to sleepiness, headaches, nasuea and concerns about the safety of it; I grew buds the size of a large cherry, kind of disc shaped in each breast and they never went away. I have my upcoming gender appointment at my local specialist soon (hoping for HRT - been waiting for years) so I thought I'd give PM another twirl to see how my body would react - I enjoyed the mental side of it more originally.

It's been about six days now since I started pm again (650-1250mg ramping up) per day and my breast buds have mostly flattened and it feels much spongier - my nipples have visible flattened from a side profile? I absolutely sure i'm not imagining it. I'm also getting those same headaches and weird heart fluctuations I had before. Any ideas?

I'll likely be stopping now until my appointment/hrt start.

Hope you're all well!

Koi

Sorry to hear your having problems with PM, but at least you are listening to you your body.
Just a few questions, are you taking the PM all at once, or spreading it out through
the day. Have you tried taking an AA, like WP or Reishi?

[QueenKoi]

Sorry to hear your having problems with PM, but at least you are listening to you your body.
Just a few questions, are you taking the PM all at once, or spreading it out through
the day. Have you tried taking an AA, like WP or Reishi?

I've been taking PM in small chunks throughout the day. And sorry no, never heard of any of those let alone tried them - do you think they would help? :p

[jannet.duff]

Sorry to hear your having problems with PM, but at least you are listening to you your body.
Just a few questions, are you taking the PM all at once, or spreading it out through
the day. Have you tried taking an AA, like WP or Reishi?

I've been taking PM in small chunks throughout the day. And sorry no, never heard of any of those let alone tried them - do you think they would help? :p

They are not an estrogen, but will help tune your testosterone down.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KLGESL0/ref=mp_s_a_1_8_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1473603819&sr=8-8&keywords=white+peony&dpPl=1&dpID=41dcbnziucL&ref=plSrch

WP is good Beceause it promotes your own body to convert testosterone into estrogen.

White peony is very effective at shutting off testosterone production.

[spoked451]

Look at what others have done. You really need to have both estrogen & anti-androgens in your program. White Peony helps with aromatase (conversion of testosterone to estrogen)

The fact is that it is far easier to make even low levels of estrogen highly effective when it doesn't have to compete with androgens. Check some of the personal programs (Lotus) and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Bottom line is PM alone isn't going to get you very far.

[QueenKoi]

Hey jannet / spoked, thanks for the replies. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, been a busy week!

Please can you or someone else suggest where I can buy WP in the UK and what dose I should take?

I spotted these teabags (no idea if they are strong enough though!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shibui-Tea-White-Peony-pyramid/dp/B01A62M8NI/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474157728&sr=8-6&keywords=white+peony+tea+bags

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Peace-White-Peony-Tea/dp/B00142DQU4/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474157728&sr=8-2&keywords=white+peony+tea+bags

Is there anything else I should add to my scheme other than PM and WP? If you have some UK amazon links I would greatly appreciate it ^^

Thanks

[jannet.duff]

Hey jannet / spoked, thanks for the replies. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, been a busy week!

Please can you or someone else suggest where I can buy WP in the UK and what dose I should take?

I spotted these teabags (no idea if they are strong enough though!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shibui-Tea-White-Peony-pyramid/dp/B01A62M8NI/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474157728&sr=8-6&keywords=white+peony+tea+bags

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Peace-White-Peony-Tea/dp/B00142DQU4/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474157728&sr=8-2&keywords=white+peony+tea+bags

Is there anything else I should add to my scheme other than PM and WP? If you have some UK amazon links I would greatly appreciate it ^^

Thanks

I'm guessing the tea bags are better than nothing. All I see in Amazon UK is White Peony tabs, you could always go to Amazon.com and see if any one offers shipping to the UK, that's what's do.

ReishI should also be available in most health food stores. Its also very effective as an AA.

Same with Pueraria Mirifica. Red reshi is also a good plant based estrogen.

[MeganJ]

Hey jannet / spoked, thanks for the replies. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, been a busy week!

Please can you or someone else suggest where I can buy WP in the UK and what dose I should take?

I spotted these teabags (no idea if they are strong enough though!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shibui-Tea-White-Peony-pyramid/dp/B01A62M8NI/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474157728&sr=8-6&keywords=white+peony+tea+bags

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Peace-White-Peony-Tea/dp/B00142DQU4/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474157728&sr=8-2&keywords=white+peony+tea+bags

Is there anything else I should add to my scheme other than PM and WP? If you have some UK amazon links I would greatly appreciate it ^^

Thanks

I'm guessing the tea bags are better than nothing. All I see in Amazon UK is White Peony tabs, you could always go to Amazon.com and see if any one offers shipping to the UK, that's what's do.

ReishI should also be available in most health food stores. Its also very effective as an AA.

Same with Pueraria Mirifica. Red reshi is also a good plant based estrogen.

Hi Queenkoi,

Am in the UK too, for white peony I order from here:

https://www.mountainfresh.co.uk/product/...-tincture/

Bai Shao Yao is the Chinese name for White Peony!

They also sell on ebay - but I havent seen the White Peony on their ebay shop. Delivery is really quick too and they take Paypal on the website.

Megan