[tanysquirrel]

i also found this;

http://examine.com/supplements/Ganoderma+lucidum/

dosage, effects etc.
'A general Ganoderma lucidum extract does not separate the triterpenoids and the polysaccharides present in the mushroom, which make up the ethanolic and water-soluble extracts, respectively. The standard dose for the basic extract is 1.44g – 5.2g. The most popular dose is 5.2g, taken in three doses of 1,800mg.

The standard dosage for the ethanolic extract is 6mg.

The water-soluble extract should be dosed similarly to the basic extract.

'The basic extract is essentially dehydrated mushroom powder, which makes it about 10 times as potent as the actual mushroom. This means that 5g of extract is similar to about 50g of whole mushroom.'

[tanysquirrel]

i found this one interesting too : (is a downloadable pdf i found on another forum.


http://reishi.setame...culos/art20.pdf


forum i found it on: https://mycotopia.net/topic/54225-anti-a...um-reishi/

[Lotus]

i also found this;

http://examine.com/supplements/Ganoderma+lucidum/

dosage, effects etc.
'A general Ganoderma lucidum extract does not separate the triterpenoids and the polysaccharides present in the mushroom, which make up the ethanolic and water-soluble extracts, respectively. The standard dose for the basic extract is 1.44g – 5.2g. The most popular dose is 5.2g, taken in three doses of 1,800mg.

The standard dosage for the ethanolic extract is 6mg.

The water-soluble extract should be dosed similarly to the basic extract.

'The basic extract is essentially dehydrated mushroom powder, which makes it about 10 times as potent as the actual mushroom. This means that 5g of extract is similar to about 50g of whole mushroom.'

Squirrel, Please see the following on Reishi:


Chapter 9Ganoderma lucidum (Lingzhi or Reishi)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK92757/
A Medicinal Mushroom

Triterpene content ranged from undetectable to 7.8% and the polysaccharide content varied from 1.1–5.8% (Chang and Buswell 2008). Such variations can occur for several reasons, including differences in the species or strains of mushroom used and differences in production methods.

Anti-androgenic activities of Ganoderma lucidum.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16029938


An Update on Plant Derived Anti-Androgens
http://endometabol.com/?page=article&article_id=3644


The anti-androgen effect of ganoderol B isolated from the fruiting body of Ganoderma lucidum.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17499997


Recent advances in the chemistry and pharmacological activity of new steroidal antiandrogens and 5 alpha-reductase inhibitors.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15853706

[tanysquirrel]

thanks lotus, i will definately look at those. what i have been running into is a lot of conrtadicting information. some are saying it is an anti androgen, some merely an adaptogen and some say it does not effect T levels at all....ran into the same thing with white peony when i was doing independent research on that herb after i heard it only effected women as an anti-androgen, found some sites that confirmed that and then again,some sites that outright said it was an anti-androgen....it gets very frustrating, who is telling the truth?

[Corneille]

Hi all, I just want to ask if someone ever tried using shrooms or truffles for medical purposes? I was reading some articles about this magic truffles and shrooms before engaging my self for the first time .They say that it has a very potent effect on the brain and hallucination. Unlike marijuana does it have any medical use? In one article that I've read magic truffles or shrooms compaired to synthetic drugs are very alarming. Also magic mushroom are use on reducing the symptoms of obsessive-compulsive disorder and anxiety. It can also help people to quit smoking and alcohol addiction. Some studies also suggest the property of magic shrooms/truffles can be useful for cancer patients. I would really want to hear other insights regarding this new possible alternative meds. Thanks

[BeautifulBambi]

Awhile back before I used Reishi my right lung would hurt from using pipe tobacco but after using Reishi my right lung stopped hurting. So what ever was wrong in my body Reishi repaired it. Very good Mushroom to try out.

[RunsWthSzissors]

thanks lotus, i will definately look at those. what i have been running into is a lot of conrtadicting information. some are saying it is an anti androgen, some merely an adaptogen and some say it does not effect T levels at all....ran into the same thing with white peony when i was doing independent research on that herb after i heard it only effected women as an anti-androgen, found some sites that confirmed that and then again,some sites that outright said it was an anti-androgen....it gets very frustrating, who is telling the truth?

Squirrel, you might try parsing that last paragraph you pasted from the rawforestfood blog to get an idea if you should believe ANYTHING they post. There is only one sentence in that paragraph that is correct (that androgen induced cell growth can result in BPH and prostate CA). 

First, 5-AR isn't a class of compounds. It is an enzyme that catalyzes the conversion T to DHT. 

Second, 5-AR isn't found in red reishi. If it was found in red reishi, it would have the opposite effect in that it would PROMOTE conversion of T to DHT. 

Third, 5-AR does NOT bind to androgen receptors. It binds to free T and converts it to DHT. 

Fourth, as the links Lotus provided will tell you, red reishi significantly inhibits 5-AR activity thereby reducing the conversion of T to DHT. That is the mechanism of action as an AA and the MAIN REASON it is beneficial for prostate health. 

Except for the last (4th) point above, you already know this stuff. If they are getting such basic physiology wrong, I would be pretty suspicious off anything else they have to say. 

Also, in the second paragraph they say red reishi doesn't reduce T and in some cases will actually increase free T (correct) but attribute its mysterious AA properties to being an adaptogen. That's herbalist BS and basically says they don't know what they're talking about. It increases free T because less free T is converted to DHT. It's simple biochemistry. Given their lack of basic understanding in the next paragraph, you might be inclined to give them a pass on this one, but I wouldn't. Red reishi likely has other properties that can be described as adaptogenic (As a pharmacotherapeutic group, adaptogens were recently defined as herbal preparations that increased attention and endur- ance in fatigue, and reduced stress-induced impairments and disor- ders related to the neuro-endocrine and immune systems...Today, the term adaptogen is widely used by many herbalists although it has yet to gain prominence in mainstream pharmacology.       https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ale...000000.pdf) but it's AA properties don't fit that description.