(29-06-2019, 01:57 PM)happyboobs Wrote: Welcome Juliet !
Look into the PM section and read alearn also about the herbs, uses etc. But I would tell you the best is to look at taking PM 1 500 pill a day and extra D3+Calcium and lots of water. Then increase after a few weeks to 2 pills, on in the Am and one a few hrs before bed. Do lots of massaging to.
Best success to you coming your way.
(28-06-2019, 10:48 PM)Aria Wrote: I would suggest either looking at Lotus's threads or Flame Sabre's. The way to begin, is simply begin with small amounts and every 30 - 60 days increase till you get to the point of feeling changes. Many said you will feel changes before you can measure of photograph them.
(01-07-2019, 01:03 PM)Shirazmn Wrote: Hi Juliethi Shirazmn
I think that they are talking about PM, meaning Pueraria Mirifica. It's a plant growing in Thailand famouse for its strong phytoestrogenic properties. Many of us (I too am a masculine guy, and I am 90Kg) started with that. Some people decide to stay on PM, others try different solution like BO (Bovine Ovary, essentially ground oviarian tissue fro cows which is loaded wit estrogen), some try massage (very slow) and weaker phytoestrogens (Soy, FlaxSeed Oil...), and some move to doctor prescribed pharma HRT (Hormone replacement therapy, usually prescribed to Trans* people).
Depending on how much you care about retaining male function "down there" you may want to add a AA (Anti-Androgen) to your routine. These are substances that in some way block Testosterone and enhance the effects of any Estrogen you might be taking. Obviously this comes at a price, which is loss of sex drive, fatigue (for some people).
AA speed up the process of feminization, but BO and PM (see above) are known for working even without AA.
Some of the most famous and widely available AA are SP (Saw Palmetto, available over the counter more or less everywhere) and WP (White Peony). This last one seems to induce aromatase, which is a process when the body turns Testosterone into Estroge, lowering the first and hightening the second.
Remember that all the above are likely to have a detrimental effect on your sex drive and male functions.
One further clarification on terms: Estrogen (female hormone) is usually called "E" on this site, and Testosterne (male hormone) is frequently abbreviated in "T".
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In the comments above, when they suggested PM, they were saying that 500mg/day is a good start. That refers to pure PM powder liek the one available on www.ainterolherbs.com (Europe: www.ainterol.co.uk ). I agree that 500mg/day are good for a week to find out if you have any intolerance. After that the sugegsted dosage (suggested from their site) is 1000mg/day (2 caps), adding calcium, fat and proteins the diet. At this dosage you are likely to experience little breast growth after about 3 months, budding at month 4 or 5, and if you continue you could grow a full A cup in 8 to 12 months. Feminizing the rest of the body may take longer, but at month 4 you will already see some change in the shape of your waist and probably feel some fulness in your butt. After about a year, with a week off every month if you want to keep sex function going, you will have probably developed a bit of a hourglass shape.
Be careful what you wish for: after budding, the breast growth will be permanent and it may resume on its own in the future whenever you gain weightt (even if you stop taking herbs, PM, hormones etc...). Also, using PM may kill your sex drive and make erections more difficult to achieve and maintain. Many men out there that have ben on PM for long and without breaks report that the size of their "equipment" has drastically reduced.
Hope this helps
(01-07-2019, 10:34 PM)Shirazmn Wrote: You're welcomeoh thats great advice thank you!
One estrogenic product is all you need to take at once. Mixing them together is pretty useless because the weaker estrogen could be in the way of the stronger one. For example, if you eat a lot of soy because of its estrogenic effect, and then you take PM (which is a stronger estrogen) you will weaken the effect of PM because part of the receptors in your body will be used by the weaker estrogen from soy.
PM, BO, and HRT will all cause changes in your body. On this site you can find experiences of people taking either of them, and growing a nice feminine shape over time. The most effective, obviously, is pharma HRT. Also because it is given by a doctor in connection with whatever you need to stop your testosterone. But if you, like me and many others, don't want to transition and only want to feminize your body, then PM and BO will work well.
Food wise you can research "food that help build testosterone" on Google... and then avoid them. I know that red meat and green leaf vegetables (lettuce, radish....) help raising T levels. Stay away from them.
Food that help feminization are, in general an in no particular order: nuts, seeds, hops, milk (apparently). Fennel seems to do a lot, particualrly fennel seeds.
Remember that to build breast tissue, while taking estrogens, your body will need a lot of calcium, and if it doesn't take it from your food it will take it from your bones. Add calcium to your diet. Also, proteins are needed along with fat to create new fat deposits. I keep suggesting cheese becaus it contains all the right stuff, and in good quantity.
One last word of advice about something I noticed (this is my opinion only): fat redistribution does NOT exist. Your fat will not migrate from your belly to your boobs and butt+hips. You will have to store new fat in "female areas", which is what estrogens make your body do, and burn the fat in "male areas", which is where you store while producing normal levels of testosterone. So it takes time for your body to change shape, and once you stop estrogens and herbs if will probably revert. Boobs are a different beast from hips and ass because breast tissue is permanent while fat deposits, no matter where, are temporary.