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I see lots of labels, TV, TG, TS, CD etc....I don't actally know what they are, perhaps I'm just too lazy to research that or just don't care, what's worse is I have not the slightest idea what I am?
I started out as a guy who just wanted to grow boobs. Why? Not sure. Been through a couple of long term relationships which ended with me being hurt and finally gave up thinking I will never, ever let a woman make me feel like this again. I don't need them, don't want them and will compete with them and transform my body, I suppose thinking that I would get my own sexual satisfaction from myself not needing anybody else......sorta a bit true now, just a bit, but not complete.

After a while on hormones I started thinking about sex....passive role, having a man take me even though I don't like men. Sorta weird, men are horrid but want one in my bed, never expected that.
Then met somebody here and became totally infatuated with her. She though genetic male is 100 percent female and all thoughts of men instantly left my head. She, hope she doesn't read this....is overweight and is sensitive about that which is probably why we never physically met.....also corona.
I am obsessed with sculpting my barbie type figure so we are sort of opposites but I absolutely adored her, not just her character which is wonderful but all of her, her body, her figure everything about her and just dreamed of having her naked body pressed up against mine.
Forgot any desires of having a man inside me and just wanted to be hers. It got quite intense and yes we exchanged a LOT of naughty pictures, which I still look at and dream.
But it faded off after time of course and haven't heard from her for months and seriously don't expect to. She needs a man, yes I am a man but seriously....was always afraid that if I was on top of her, inside her, and she felt my back, bra straps and actual boobs pressing against hers, then........uuum, I really couldn't handle being dumped for who I have become, no!
Anyway that ended and I thought to heck with it, if I cannot have somebody.....eeeew that sounds awful, but yes if I can't then I will let somebody have me, just to see what it's like.
Well suppose more to it than that honestly but went ahead with it.
Not NOT her fault, no way, I had these feelings before I met her, important for me to make that clear.

Not to go into sexual details but was far, far more awesome than I expected. But wrong man, didn't fancy him in the slightest, well don't fancy men in general but if I did still wouldn't have fancied him. Was also selfish, not into foreplay unless it was me doing it being submissive on my knees (suprised me a lot that I actually enjoyed that as much as I did) and Mr Speedy, was far too fast, a sudden tensing of the body, grabbing me painfully tight, to get his donation as deep inside me as possible.
Yes makes you feel absolutely female to have a man so excited by you to do that, but was that it, it's over????
Unfortunately I am not a person for after sex, don't even want to be touched after, just want to lay there. Yes I was curious, I wanted to try it only once, even with a man I didn't like, but actually let him take me quire a few, well no, a lot of times.
But is really an annoying man who pathetically thinks he is dominant .....uuum no, you only get what I allow you! Bought a slutty 1/4 cup break up sex bra, that did the job, don't think it lasted even a minute, he could be a Gold Medalist in premature ejaculations. Now getting the angry what's app insulting messages, expecting tomorrow they will turn into crying and begging messages. Well that's what I did when a woman broke up with me.
But I tried it, was in a way wonderful but I honestly don't like men at all, just the anatomy. Maybe I should buy a vibrator?; But no, absolutely no way it can be the same, am not ashamed as I thought I may be before, I can excite a person enough to shudder inside of me. And it made me feel, well I don't think I can genuinely describe that.
But I think I may be able to go without that. No matter how it made me feel I still do think of only one fabulous person, the bond we had, the absolute desire just to lay next to her in bed and love her. To feel her body close to mine, the intimacy, something I cannot get anywhere else.
So WTF am I, I would do almost anything to be her man and make her happy....almost, I won't forsake my feminine side. Yes have experienced sex both ways and to be honest playing the female role was physically the best, but raw sex, not intimate at all, which is more important than anything.

So have done it, a little ashamed as as I did it I still had very, very strong feelings for somebody else, who doesn't want to know me anymore. But yes, did it, enjoyed it but my deepest feelings is for a transgendered girl who I am totally in love with who I want to love in the role as a man but won't give up my fem side. This is REALLY screwed up, I honestly cannot think of a label to describe my sexuality.

Please no comments like, talk to her, tell her your feelings, that's history, she knows how much I adore her and everything is my fault.......so move on, but how? with what?
I don't like men really, and am suspicious that any woman is ultimately out to hurt me. Also a bit difficult to get intimate with a woman when she realises your breasts are almost as big as hers.

Have tried looking for TS, TG on weird dating sites, some looked quite impressive until you look at the pics very close and realise the are stick on rubber boobs. Why dress up in lingerie and wear rubber pretend boobs, I haven't put in the time and effort to grow my own to look at a pretender with rediculous stick on thing's no matter how authentic they may look at a casual glance, put in the effort and be serious about it! But suppose anybody I look at I will find a fault with.
Still only one for me, but ruined it even though I don't know how, probably my boobs and rediculously skinny waistline, which I think intimidated her, but was totally in love with all of her, the complete package just the way she is. Bot bygones, have been alive long enough to know when to move on, and I will.

But still the question is......WTF am I now?????????
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#2

Thank you for your entirely candid and genuine post.  I find that it resonates with me in so many ways that it makes me too wonder, what am I?
I did not grow breasts, but can totally recognize the possibility of my having gone down the completely parallel path to what you describe.  I don't presume to offer any advice.  I can share that I explore completely similar feelings, on a daily basis, truth be told.  I can share that I feel my human spirit is neither limited to male nor female.  I can share that the feral physical being of me can express in ways that open doors to the augmentation of my body-spirit connection.  I can share that such exercise in fluidity gets me in touch with my own essential incompleteness, and what I expected the woman in my life to complete for me.
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(23-10-2020, 08:13 PM)Drew Wrote:  I see lots of labels, TV, TG, TS, CD etc....I don't actally know what they are, perhaps I'm just too lazy to research that or just don't care, what's worse is I have not the slightest idea what I am?
I started out as a guy who just wanted to grow boobs. Why? Not sure. Been through a couple of long term relationships which ended with me being hurt and finally gave up thinking I will never, ever let a woman make me feel like this again. I don't need them, don't want them and will compete with them and transform my body, I suppose thinking that I would get my own sexual satisfaction from myself not needing anybody else......sorta a bit true now, just a bit, but not complete.

After a while on hormones I started thinking about sex....passive role, having a man take me even though I don't like men. Sorta weird, men are horrid but want one in my bed, never expected that.
Then met somebody here and became totally infatuated with her. She though genetic male is 100 percent female and all thoughts of men instantly left my head. She, hope she doesn't read this....is overweight and is sensitive about that which is probably why we never physically met.....also corona.
I am obsessed with sculpting my barbie type figure so we are sort of opposites but I absolutely adored her, not just her character which is wonderful but all of her, her body, her figure everything about her and just dreamed of having her naked body pressed up against mine.
Forgot any desires of having a man inside me and just wanted to be hers. It got quite intense and yes we exchanged a LOT of naughty pictures, which I still look at and dream.
But it faded off after time of course and haven't heard from her for months and seriously don't expect to. She needs a man, yes I am a man but seriously....was always afraid that if I was on top of her, inside her, and she felt my back, bra straps and actual boobs pressing against hers, then........uuum, I really couldn't handle being dumped for who I have become, no!
Anyway that ended and I thought to heck with it, if I cannot have somebody.....eeeew that sounds awful, but yes if I can't then I will let somebody have me, just to see what it's like.
Well suppose more to it than that honestly but went ahead with it.
Not NOT her fault, no way, I had these feelings before I met her, important for me to make that clear.

Not to go into sexual details but was far, far more awesome than I expected. But wrong man, didn't fancy him in the slightest, well don't fancy men in general but if I did still wouldn't have fancied him. Was also selfish, not into foreplay unless it was me doing it being submissive on my knees (suprised me a lot that I actually enjoyed that as much as I did) and Mr Speedy, was far too fast, a sudden tensing of the body, grabbing me painfully tight, to get his donation as deep inside me as possible.
Yes makes you feel absolutely female to have a man so excited by you to do that, but was that it, it's over????
Unfortunately I am not a person for after sex, don't even want to be touched after, just want to lay there. Yes I was curious, I wanted to try it only once, even with a man I didn't like, but actually let him take me quire a few, well no, a lot of times.
But is really an annoying man who pathetically thinks he is dominant .....uuum no, you only get what I allow you! Bought a slutty 1/4 cup break up sex bra, that did the job, don't think it lasted even a minute, he could be a Gold Medalist in premature ejaculations. Now getting the angry what's app insulting messages, expecting tomorrow they will turn into crying and begging messages. Well that's what I did when a woman broke up with me.
But I tried it, was in a way wonderful but I honestly don't like men at all, just the anatomy. Maybe I should buy a vibrator?; But no, absolutely no way it can be the same, am not ashamed as I thought I may be before, I can excite a person enough to shudder inside of me. And it made me feel, well I don't think I can genuinely describe that.
But I think I may be able to go without that. No matter how it made me feel I still do think of only one fabulous person, the bond we had, the absolute desire just to lay next to her in bed and love her. To feel her body close to mine, the intimacy, something I cannot get anywhere else.
So WTF am I, I would do almost anything to be her man and make her happy....almost, I won't forsake my feminine side. Yes have experienced sex both ways and to be honest playing the female role was physically the best, but raw sex, not intimate at all, which is more important than anything.

So have done it, a little ashamed as as I did it I still had very, very strong feelings for somebody else, who doesn't want to know me anymore. But yes, did it, enjoyed it but my deepest feelings is for a transgendered girl who I am totally in love with who I want to love in the role as a man but won't give up my fem side. This is REALLY screwed up, I honestly cannot think of a label to describe my sexuality.

Please no comments like, talk to her, tell her your feelings, that's history, she knows how much I adore her and everything is my fault.......so move on, but how? with what?
I don't like men really, and am suspicious that any woman is ultimately out to hurt me. Also a bit difficult to get intimate with a woman when she realises your breasts are almost as big as hers.

Have tried looking for TS, TG on weird dating sites, some looked quite impressive until you look at the pics very close and realise the are stick on rubber boobs. Why dress up in lingerie and wear rubber pretend boobs, I haven't put in the time and effort to grow my own to look at a pretender with rediculous stick on thing's  no matter how authentic they may look at a casual glance, put in the effort and be serious about it! But suppose anybody I look at I will find a fault with.
Still only one for me, but ruined it even though I don't know how, probably my boobs and rediculously skinny waistline, which I think intimidated her, but was totally in love with all of her, the complete package just the way she is. Bot bygones, have been alive long enough to know when to move on, and I will.

But still the question is......WTF am I now?????????

Does it really matter?? these are just labels, boxes that we all as humans like to put ourselves and others in.
For me far too much emphasis is put on labels, so all I can offer is try to just be you, and enjoy being you.
I know it's easier said than done, but well worth trying.
Good luck x
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I don't think it's so much as labelling myself but acknowledging what I am now that I have committed myself to this lifestyle.
I'm still attracted to females, very much so but a relationship with one is no longer an option. Boobs are now a bit difficult to hide but as soon as a woman realised we have roughly the same bra size then it would be over. Also as time goes on my thingy is getting less active.I

I'm not attracted to men at all, have looked at porn it seems I'm very choosy. I would say at least 90 percent of penis I look at are eeeeeek, eeeeew, but occasionally there is one where I think oooooh, that's nice. Probably just looking for one that looks a bit like mine.
Was very lucky with the man I decided to experiment with in the fact that his was very nice, though a bit on the small side, not tiny but wouldn't have complained of it were a bit larger, but was nice. In fact if it were twice the size and could go for more than just a few minutes he would probably still be in my bed.
Well no, not true, even if I were attracted to men I still wouldn't be attracted to him, was for me just and experiment on the other side. Okay the actual sex though brief was great, but not all of it. I definitely didn't like being kissed on the mouth but let him and pretended I was into it, though strangely unless he were inside me at the time then it was, yeah....more than nice.
I had to Google anal orgasm to see if it is really a thing, and yes it is. I didn't get one, don't know if it was too small or it only ever lasted a few minutes before he climaxed or if I myself am not capable of having one. Still the act of having sex was absolutely awesome, just would have liked to have lasted a bit longer. Foreplay was kinda, just get on with it and take me! Before I imagined boob play would be fantastic but a full beard felt like I were being sucked by a wild animal, NOT nice. I have very soft hands myself and didn't expect beforehand to have very rough hands on my skin, that was more than just a pleasant surprise, but apart from that wasn't into foreplay at all. Seems foreplay with a man is really not my Thing or is it just because I didn't like him?
Thing is I'm not sure if I want to try another man to see if he can make me scream Smile First am not attracted to them and any man who wants to penetrate me is going to be gay. That's not bad thing but it does bring problems too.
I made it absolutely clear that he was never, ever, on no account allowed to touch my thingy, don't even look at it. But constantly tried to convince me that penetrating him would be wonderful.....Eeeeeeeek...NO! Absolutely no way On this earth would that ever happen.
Also tried to talk me into a three some which I though at first that would be kinda awesome, until they start touching each other then that's not something I want to see.
So it's not about labels really its where I am.
Like women but can't have one.
Not attracted to men.
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#5

Are you documenting to publicly own your experience, or do you desire feedback for clarification of your own thoughts?  I could share a good amount of feedback, if that were desired, or I can simply congratulate you on your willingness to seek answers through experience, if the former.

I am refreshed to hear your story, because it is much more along the lines of why I lurk these pages daily..
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(29-10-2020, 06:50 PM)PleasantlyFascinated Wrote:  Are you&nbsp;documenting to publicly own your experience, or do you desire feedback for clarification of your own thoughts?&nbsp; I could share a good amount of feedback, if that were desired, or I can simply congratulate you on your willingness to seek answers through experience, if the former.

I am refreshed to hear your story, because it is much more along the lines of why I lurk these pages daily..

I have no idea, when I started this I was very sceptical that just taking a herb would grow boobs but hoped for just a little, a bit less then an a cup. However when I could fill an a cup wanted more, at the start I would have never believed that I would now be filling out my b cups
and yes, still want more.
They are already too big for me to ever be with a woman again so will now be happy if I can eventually fill out a c cup.
So women are no longer an option, fustratingly
As I mentioned I descovered that I do like being on the receiving end, as sex goes but don't like the men so if I were to do it again IDK then it's just sex, no feeling's at all. Makes me sound a bit slutty I know.
I did consider a trans girl, but the site I am on there are a lot of supposedly TS girls but looking at the pictures they just look like men in wigs with stick on boobs.
If they want to wear a bra then they should put in the effort to fill it themselves, not going to be with somebody with rubber boobs, apart from that they are mostly just interested in being on the receiving end.
Am not sure there are any answers?
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#7

Hi Drew
Nice to read your story and I can identify with all of it.
I had a lot of "receiving" sex with men as a teenager and the experience programmed me into thinking that thats "what I do".
A long and generally happy marriage came along with occasional visits to the "dark side".
The thing you may be interested to hear is that I did find a kind of Mr Right (also married).  We had a lot of meetings, mostly sex but nice social too, and I did grow to have warm feelings about him as a person and that made the physical side move to a different level - not just the raw sex which you recount, and which was how it always had been for me previously.
I still feel as you do, I'm not particularly attracted to the male physique.  (though I quite like to see breasts on a man!)
Sadly (but not looking back), both the above relationships are in the past, though treasured in memory.
x A
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(01-11-2020, 02:38 PM)ariadne Wrote:  Hi Drew
Nice to read your story and I can identify with all of it.
I had a lot of "receiving" sex with men as a teenager and the experience programmed me into thinking that thats "what I do".
A long and generally happy marriage came along with occasional visits to the "dark side".
The thing you may be interested to hear is that I did find a kind of Mr Right (also married).&nbsp; We had a lot of meetings, mostly sex but nice social too, and I did grow to have warm feelings about him as a person and that made the physical side move to a different level - not just the raw sex which you recount, and which was how it always had been for me previously.
I still feel as you do, I'm not particularly attracted to the male physique.&nbsp; (though I quite like to see breasts on a man!)
Sadly (but not looking back), both the above relationships are in the past, though treasured in memory.
x A

I sort of get you Ariadne apart from the fact that I had no prior experience with a man. In fact 2 years ago before starting this hormone journey I had never had a gay thought in my life, the idea of letting a man's thingy anywhere near me would have been rediculous, didn't know what I was letting myself in for before I started this.
The reply from PleasantlyFascinated kinda forced me to investigate my current situation. Am not an avid watcher of porn but lately have been watching various types to see what does it for me. OFC I already knew as that is what I left until last to view. Clips watching men masturbating is what made me really hot, especially the ejaculation which made me think, I want that RIGHT NOW! So that's obviously my sexual orientation now.
But as you mentioned I still am not attracted to men but think if I could possibly find a good one that may change, or that is my hope. However I chose the wrong one to experiment with, physically and his personality was ......well horrid. In fact I never heard from him weekends, his wife knew about me and I think weekends were tabu but as an example after not hearing from him for 3 days one Monday morning I got this exact 8 word mail.
Am not lying here, honestly this is what I got! Sorry for using the F word but this is the adult section.
"I have time to fuck you on Wednesday"......OH REALLY!!!!!!! I feel so f-ing honoured you twat! If you were to spend half the time trying to make your wife pregnant than you spend on me you wouldn't need Wednesday.; Buster if you haven't noticed that is NOT a vagina, the eggs your enthusiastically trying to fertilise are non existent and I'm on the pill anyway!!!!
.Sorry.....have nobody else to talk about this with....sorry for venting my fustration here.
Anyway immediate reaction was to flame and reply with lots of profanity but after calming down the reply was " Wednesday is good for me, can't wait, when will you be here?"
But yes I selected an a-hole but that's over now, I finished it. Sorta over, is for me but apparently not for him.
I can imagine that as I further my journey with hormones I may eventually become attracted to somebody but after my experience though in ways wonderful was also demeaning and not ready right now to start anything with anybody, but at least now know my sexual orientation.
Would have never believed this possible before I started hormones, but I think now that this is the way I was meant to be I just never knew it.
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Sorry for that rant, this is not the place but tbh I have nowhere/nobody else.
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#10

Drew - I recognize the feelings you describe.   Sometimes after sex with men I've felt down, used, and one one occasion cried.   But during the relationship that really worked I remember a feeling of elation leaving the hotel in the morning, knowing I'd done something special for him and feeling very good about what he'd done for me and still feeling the reminder of it in my insides.   But even with that particular guy I sometimes felt like a f*ck-toy being used when it suited him.   And it was a real downer once when he sent me a text about arrangements to meet, which was a surprise as they were sent by accident to my phone number instead of the guy he was two-timing me with!   But we sometimes have to swallow our pride as well as the other stuff. 
I'm not proud that I was dishonouring my wife while carrying on the gay relationship.  Rightly or wrongly the sex with my wife improved while I was fulfilling the woman-role for my male partner.   I think because it made me more aware of what a woman needs from sex. 
So if you're wondering what label to put on yourself - forget it - you can have more roles than one.
Smile Adrian
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