[ukxdress]

It was all going so well, boobs developing nicely, but then I started to notice things. Some people have mentioned anxiety and depression. Yes, it got me to. But it sort of crept up on me. I knew I was feeling rough, but hadn't realised what was happening until someone else mentioned it.

Also, the joint pains. Wow, I was walking with a permanent limp, my ankle was so sore.

So, I stopped the PM and RR at the end of December, and here, today things are so much better, joints, mood everything.

I was taking between 1500mg and 2000mg with Red Reshi <yeah, spelt that wrong> along with calcium because of the joint problem.

Obviously I'm a little disappointed to have to stop the PM. However, I've followed a bit of advice again and switched back to Fenugreek. So hopefully my journey continues, but probably ant a much lower pace.

I'm not taking anything else this time, let's just see how things go.

In just over a year I managed to grow just over 2 inches of boob, measured over the nipple, so at least I got something.

So, any tips on success with Fenugreek any one ?

[VergeOfDiscovery]

It was all going so well, boobs developing nicely, but then I started to notice things. Some people have mentioned anxiety and depression. Yes, it got me to. But it sort of crept up on me. I knew I was feeling rough, but hadn't realised what was happening until someone else mentioned it.

Also, the joint pains. Wow, I was walking with a permanent limp, my ankle was so sore.

So, I stopped the PM and RR at the end of December, and here, today things are so much better, joints, mood everything.

I was taking between 1500mg and 2000mg with Red Reshi <yeah, spelt that wrong> along with calcium because of the joint problem.

Obviously I'm a little disappointed to have to stop the PM. However, I've followed a bit of advice again and switched back to Fenugreek. So hopefully my journey continues, but probably ant a much lower pace.

I'm not taking anything else this time, let's just see how things go.

In just over a year I managed to grow just over 2 inches of boob, measured over the nipple, so at least I got something.

So, any tips on success with Fenugreek any one ?

I'm a fan of fenugreek (even used it prior to NBE/MBE as a testosterone booster) and I like LIQUID FENUGREEK EXTRACTS in particular.

Topical is definitely a path to consider when taken things are giving you issues like what you mentioned above. That's even true for HRT meds that may be problematic for some - topical estrogen (etics) may be a possible alternative.

[ukxdress]

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I'm a fan of fenugreek (even used it prior to NBE/MBE as a testosterone booster) and I like LIQUID FENUGREEK EXTRACTS in particular.

Topical is definitely a path to consider when taken things are giving you issues like what you mentioned above. That's even true for HRT meds that may be problematic for some - topical estrogen (etics) may be a possible alternative.
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Hello and thank you.

Yes, some sort of PM cream might be a good idea, applied direct to the boobs. I was also thinking, I might be able to alternate between the two. One month FG, one week break, one month PM ?

Leigh,,

[VergeOfDiscovery]

I'm a fan of fenugreek (even used it prior to NBE/MBE as a testosterone booster) and I like LIQUID FENUGREEK EXTRACTS in particular.

Topical is definitely a path to consider when taken things are giving you issues like what you mentioned above. That's even true for HRT meds that may be problematic for some - topical estrogen (etics) may be a possible alternative.
[/quote]

Hello and thank you.

Yes, some sort of PM cream might be a good idea, applied direct to the boobs. I was also thinking, I might be able to alternate between the two. One month FG, one week break, one month PM ?

Leigh,,

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Another option is to more rapidly switch between the two. Meaning why wait a week when a day would do.

[wee2er]

I'm a fan of fenugreek (even used it prior to NBE/MBE as a testosterone booster) and I like LIQUID FENUGREEK EXTRACTS in particular.

Topical is definitely a path to consider when taken things are giving you issues like what you mentioned above. That's even true for HRT meds that may be problematic for some - topical estrogen (etics) may be a possible alternative.
[/quote]

Hello and thank you.

Yes, some sort of PM cream might be a good idea, applied direct to the boobs. I was also thinking, I might be able to alternate between the two. One month FG, one week break, one month PM ?

Leigh,,

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I started my NBE journey just a few months ago and ll I have done is use PM gel (massage and pumping) twice/three times daily and I've had some really great results. I know everyone reacts differently, but I'd certainly consider PM gel massage and pumping if you can't take PM

[ukxdress]

Leigh,,

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I started my NBE journey just a few months ago and ll I have done is use PM gel (massage and pumping) twice/three times daily and I've had some really great results. I know everyone reacts differently, but I'd certainly consider PM gel massage and pumping if you can't take PM
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Hi there,

Thanks for the suggestion. That's two votes for cream/gel type of application. It's certainly something I will have to have a go at.

Leigh,,

[guy_and_lingerie]

I am a big fan of fenugreek as well! I used it for about a year and half and got some nice results at 1220 mg taken three times a day. A buddy on FetLife told me about it and he has developed some huge breasts over the years using fenugreek and nothing else!
One great thing about fenugreek is that it gave me bigger breasts with no other side effects!
I am currently on a 6 month run with estradiol, but will be gong back to fenugreek.
I have used saw palmetto for many years and tried to switch to red reishi. I had a bad reaction with terrible headaches. Oh well, things work differently on everyone.

Joey

[VergeOfDiscovery]

        In my experience, two (topical) things that will plump things up noticeably faster than anything else (exception might be estrogel, but you're not supposed to use it that way) are:


For the Ainterol cream, do follow the directions which suggest to apply to the top half of the breast (and not the bottom). Seems to work better that way.

Love the Herb Pharm fenugreek liquid extract and just ordered a bigger 4oz bottle off Amazon. If I use it the night before, they are definitely more plump the next day!

[ukxdress]

I am a big fan of fenugreek as well! I used it for about a year and half and got some nice results at 1220 mg taken three times a day. A buddy on FetLife told me about it and he has developed some huge breasts over the years using fenugreek and nothing else!

Would that be 'BK' I spoke to him too on FL. It's his advice I'm following. Small world.......

[ukxdress]

In my experience, two (topical) things that will plump things up noticeably faster than anything else (exception might be estrogel, but you're not supposed to use it that way) are:


For the Ainterol cream, do follow the directions which suggest to apply to the top half of the breast (and not the bottom). Seems to work better that way.

Love the Herb Pharm fenugreek liquid extract and just ordered a bigger 4oz bottle off Amazon. If I use it the night before, they are definitely more plump the next day!

Thanks for pointing those out to me. I'll have to go shopping......