[Shirazmn]

Drew, there is no need to be offended.
The fake over-politeness of British English is famous everywhere. I live and have lived in London for 11 years and I still see threads of Email going through and forth with clients because, for the sake of being polite, it's almost impossible to directly criticise something.
I am not like that. I don't hide behind fake politeness. When I have something to say, I just say it directly and in the most understandable way.

That's what I meant. And it wasn't an attack to the Brits. It's a simple consideration on language.

(I didn't make the meme I am attaching, it's been on the Internet forever. I think it explains my point of view)

[Drew]

Drew, there is no need to be offended.
The fake over-politeness of British English is famous everywhere. I live and have lived in London for 11 years and I still see threads of Email going through and forth with clients because, for the sake of being polite, it's almost impossible to directly criticise something.
I am not like that. I don't hide behind fake politeness. When I have something to say, I just say it directly and in the most understandable way.

That's what I meant. And it wasn't an attack to the Brits. It's a simple consideration on language.

(I didn't make the meme I am attaching, it's been on the Internet forever. I think it explains my point of view)

Well I do find the comment rude and initially offensive as a immediate reaction but am not brittle enough to cry about it or dwell on it.

Is why I asked is it wrong of me to be offended? Genuinely

There are far too many people online who are all too eager to feel offended at a slight in fact am sure they search hoping for something to take offence to and want everybody else to read about how hurt they are. That's not me.

See it as it is now, but still a bit rude-ish.

Anyway have taken us waaaaaay off topic to which I am none the wiser.

[Dibraru]

Hi I am new to breastnexum. I have been reading through quite a few of the threads. This MsM thread is very interesting to me, since I want boobs, but still stay as much of a man as possible.

Currently I am trying to figure out, if I am a man or trans, but one thing I do know for sure. I want breasts either way. For that it doesn't matter to me, if I realise, that I am trans then good for me i would already have boobs, or if I want to stay a man with boobs.

Some information about me. I am a 22 years old Male. I am quite thin. I am a little under weight, since last year I suddenly got a stomach problem as well as depressions and lost 25 kilograms in 3 months due to not being able to eat. Now I'm starting to get better and realized, that my stomach problems probably are more of a mental issue. I had many check ups and cameras in all of my digestive system. But they didn't really find anything.

I have a girlfriend. We are together since we both were 14 years old and it is thanks to her, that I was able to ... well survive (without her I probably would have ended myself). She is everything to me, so it is really important to me, that she is fine with whatever I decide to do. She is neither happy with me maybe being trans or me growing breasts, but she said breasts wouldn't as bad.
For me is, when I grow breasts important, that neither I shrink down there, nor that my semen production gets irreversible damaged. I am ok with getting a little more butt an hips or redistribution of the little fat I have (especially right now since I lost so much Weight that sitting on hard chairs hurts), but it is important to me, that everything stays intact. My girlfriend and me want children in a few years. So testicle shrink/damage is a no go
I think everyone who has been around here fore some time has read the thread by Lotus, where he/she (not sure) explains in detail what the different herbs do to the hormone balance in the body and many more scientific hormone related things. I have read it till the end (too me a long time) and understand some of it. But I have to say for some who was really bad in biology classes in school and who is not a native English speaker, this text is really hard to understand. (By the way sorry for the probably bad grammar)

I chose this thread, because like I mentioned above I want breast and (currently) still remain a man and be able to get children later on. A herb, which makes it that I cannot make a child while I'm on it, but returns back to normal, when I stop is ok to me as well, as long as the damage is not permanent.

Now my questions.
Which herbs can I take which fulfill my criteria?
Which herbs or even herb category should I avoid?
I have read the term moobs and boobs here, so how do I achieve boobs instead of moobs?
Would you recommend me to pump to achieve a nice shape or rather not?

Thanks for reading and sorry if someone else already asked something like this. If someone did, could You please tell me in which thread? (There are so many threads....)
If this wasn't asked, or you don't mind telling me again, then I would be happy to hear from you guys/girls (whatever you prefer).

And to the discussion which is going on in here. I would say you are what you feel you are. So If a man with breasts thinks of himself as a man, then he is a man and if a man who grows boobs recognizes oneself then not as a Male anymore, I think that is ok as well. Everyone should respect the view each of us has about himself or herself. 
That's just my opinion,  but I think this way you can avoid fights and respect each other as much as you respect yourself.
(Sry again for my bad English I normally dont write much in English)

[Stevenator.]

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=24358 

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17416 

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17436

[Dibraru]

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=24358 ;

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17416 ;

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17436

Thanks for the fast reply. But my problem is, that they only talk about the breast growth and not how the genitals react to the herbs. I think on around page 6 on the first link they start talking about BO which, from what I have read, shrink everything down there. I went on to page 20 of 400+ but still didn't find anything

For the first and the third link these are the scientific threads I was talking about. They are great. They explain dht, aromatese and many more. It's just that it doesn't specifically explain what does it mean if there is no more/ less DHT. Ist it just that my breasts grow and I am less sexual active or does it change something irreversible for reproduction.

Lotus chares the routine he/she does, but also mentions that there were great changes in the body, but nothing on how it influenced the sexual function of the body.

Yes I know I only read like a small fraction of this gigantic discussion, but it doesn't look like they really care about their manhood.

I just need confirmation

Which herbs I shouldn't take if I want to stay active.

[Stevenator.]

There in-lies the tightrope. 

I believe L-Arginine helps, along with Horny Goat Weed and viagra. Zinc is helpful. So is proper, ahem, maintenance. It’s a very difficult balance. Be for-warned.

[Dibraru]

There in-lies the tightrope. 

I believe L-Arginine helps, along with Horny Goat Weed and viagra. Zinc is helpful. So is proper, ahem, maintenance. It’s a very difficult balance. Be for-warned.

So i was thinking about a combination of PM, FG, Licorice and Dandelion.

And thanks to your reply add horny goat weed. Do you think this is a good combination or should I leave one of those out?

[Stevenator.]

Lotus said .... “FG competes for the same estrogen receptor as does PM”. 

[Dibraru]

Lotus said .... “FG competes for the same estrogen receptor as does PM”. 

Oh... so which of the both would have less side effects?

[Stevenator.]

Lotus said . . . . : 

My NBE core go like this:

Pueraria mirifica @ 500-1500pm (daily)
Progesterone cream, a small amount that covers the breast (3-maybe 4 times per week)
MSM 1-3g per day. antioxidant, pro-breast health, GH (growth hormone) STAT5 protein synthesizer. Meaning it helps raise growth hormone...not alot mind you. Estradiol lowers GH, we need to balance. 

Vitamin D3 helps with breast growing. If you take Calcium you need V-D3 to become more biologically active. 

Melatonin (dosage per person varies), taking this is going after REM and Deep sleep stages (@ body healing), and other things. 

Reishi extract, the higher the polysaccharides, makes for a stronger anti-androgen. Like this one below, it's organic and 35% polysaccharides.