[Gary]

 Can these two.be taken together ?

[Heaven's Night]

Well now, that's something new, what is dim?

[Gary]

Well now, that's something new, what is dim?

It's on lotus list

DIM is Diindolylmethane-It is an anti carcinogen and also improves estrogen metabolism. Plant-derived 3,3′-Diindolylmethane Is a Strong Androgen Antagonist in Human Prostate Cancer Cells* DIM is remarkably similar in conformational geometry and surface charge distribution to an established synthetic AR antagonist, Taken with estrogen agonist, activities of DIM are seen as an hormone disrupter. DIM is the first example of a pure androgen receptor antagonist from plants.

But no one seems to use it and was curious why it's easy to get here 

[Alexis P]

Well now, that's something new, what is dim?

It's on lotus list

DIM is Diindolylmethane-It is an anti carcinogen and also improves estrogen metabolism. Plant-derived 3,3′-Diindolylmethane Is a Strong Androgen Antagonist in Human Prostate Cancer Cells* DIM is remarkably similar in conformational geometry and surface charge distribution to an established synthetic AR antagonist, Taken with estrogen agonist, activities of DIM are seen as an hormone disrupter. DIM is the first example of a pure androgen receptor antagonist from plants.

But no one seems to use it and was curious why it's easy to get here 

Check it twice because i remember Lotus later removing it from the usable supplements. Don't remember if she decided it because it wasn't clear, or because it wasn't safe to assume it.

[Heaven's Night]

Somehow I have completely missed this... And I haven't heard her advice on using it either. Interesting.

[Coffee]

Sorry for posting on a three month old thread, but I don't get around these parts much.

PM/DIM has been my main regimen since I switched from BO.

Gauging supplemental effectiveness is... hard. Best I can say is I've seen some growth with PM/DIM. How much DIM aided in that I cannot say.
But the fact that I'm here checking out other options to pair with PM also suggests that I believe things could be going better. But gauging supplemental effectiveness is hard and could things be going better because DIM isn't effective...? or because my dosing is off...? or because my body is old and creaky and resistant to change...? or because I'm big and fat and change at normal speeds just don't feel notable on my body?

Take that as you will.

[VergeOfDiscovery]

For what it's worth, there are combo men's fitness supplements that aim to boost free testosterone and reduce free estrogen. You know they use to lower free estrogen? DIM.

Something to consider.

[Gary]

For what it's worth, there are combo men's fitness supplements that aim to boost free testosterone and reduce free estrogen. You know they use to lower free estrogen? DIM.

Something to consider.

I have read that and also read its a great AA I have had better results taking DIM in morning and PM later in the morning but could be coincidence maybe but certainly feel it in my nipples

[Drew]

For what it's worth, there are combo men's fitness supplements that aim to boost free testosterone and reduce free estrogen. You know they use to lower free estrogen? DIM.

Something to consider.

I have read that and also read its a great AA I have had better results taking DIM in morning and PM later in the morning but could be coincidence maybe but certainly feel it in my nipples

Is it bad that progressing so far in my feminisation I don't know what dim is? Feeling a bit dim myself now.