[VergeOfDiscovery]

Funny, was just watching some Dr. Berg yesterday...hadn't heard of him prior. 

Learning to enjoy really good food is a lifelong journey that wish embraced earlier. Things just taste better and feel better in the process.

It's crazy how much of what is on offer in almost any major supermarket isn't really fit for eating. Estimate it's typically at least 70% junk that is detrimental to health. Have to be really selective and it's a long term strategy of eating well vs temporary dieting. Jettisoning junk goes a long way though!

Cheers to health!

[Stevenator_]

Dr. Berg is amazing. I’ve learned so much from his short chalkboard lectures. He really explains the science behind food and how it affects our bodies. 

I was already on a kick before I learned about Keto & Dr Berg, to avoid high fructose corn syrup and seed oils. If you start reading food labels, you’ll be surprised at the number of things that contain HFCS. I mean seriously, who wants to eat cotton seeds?

My #1 concern is better health, but it’s so awesome how this diet positively affects NBE/HRT.

[Stevenator_]

If you watch How It’s Made - Canola Oil, you’ll never eat this junk again. This is the same process all seed oils go through. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfk2IXlZdbI

[Lotus]

Hi Stevenator, great post, I like you're before and after pic. Here's what I'm seeing in the after pic. A tanner stage 4, what's important to me is seeing breast volume…which you have. Your obstacle is visceral fat as it prevents you and any other person on this forum wanting to grow breasts, and here's why. Breasts in overweight men are not seeing significant breast growth because of this conversion to E1 estrone (which is a much weaker estrogen) instead of being converted to E2 estradiol (the main breast growing estrogen).

Either way, it's great to have back, and i wish you all the best. 

And then there's this: 

NOW, I understand what Lotus has been telling us for years about visceral fat. 

Hi Stevenator, the simple truth is visceral fat is so much harder to get rid of. Plus, there's much more DHT in visceral fat than subcutaneous fat. And as we know DHT stops breast growth in tracks...cold. Eliminating the carbs and sugars are about 90% of the battle, becoming active is the other 10%, if you can't do HIIT that's okay too, any activity is a start.

In the past I've shared how having belly fat stores estrogen (in visceral fat) rather than converting it to usable free E2 (estradiol) inside ER receptor cells.

Mitochondrial respiration in subcutaneous and visceral adipose tissue from patients with morbid obesity
Kraunsøe R1, Boushel R, Hansen CN, Schjerling P, Qvortrup K, Støckel M, Mikines KJ, Dela F.
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Erratum in
* J Physiol. 2010 Oct 15; 588(Pt 20):4055.
Abstract
Adipose tissue exerts important endocrine and metabolic functions in health and disease. Yet the bioenergetics of this tissue is not characterized in humans and possible regional differences are not elucidated. Using high resolution respirometry, mitochondrial respiration was quantified in human abdominal subcutaneous and intra-abdominal visceral (omentum majus) adipose tissue from biopsies obtained in 20 obese patients undergoing bariatric surgery. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and genomic DNA (gDNA) were determined by the PCR technique for estimation of mitochondrial density. Adipose tissue samples were permeabilized and respirometric measurements were performed in duplicate at 37 degrees C. Substrates (glutamate (G) + malate (M) + octanoyl carnitine (O) + succinate (S)) were added sequentially to provide electrons to complex I + II. ADP ((D)) for state 3 respiration was added after GM. Uncoupled respiration was measured after addition of FCCP. Visceral fat contained more mitochondria per milligram of tissue than subcutaneous fat, but the cells were smaller. Robust, stable oxygen fluxes were found in both tissues, and coupled state 3 (GMOS(D)) and uncoupled respiration were significantly (P < 0.05) higher in visceral (0.95 +/- 0.05 and 1.15 +/- 0.06 pmol O(2) s(1) mg(1), respectively) compared with subcutaneous (0.76 +/- 0.04 and 0.98 +/- 0.05 pmol O(2) s(1) mg(1), respectively) adipose tissue. Expressed per mtDNA, visceral adipose tissue had significantly (P < 0.05) lower mitochondrial respiration. Substrate control ratios were higher and uncoupling control ratio lower (P < 0.05) in visceral compared with subcutaneous adipose tissue. 

We conclude that visceral fat is bio energetically more active and more sensitive to mitochondrial substrate supply than subcutaneous fat. Oxidative phosphorylation has a higher relative activity in visceral compared with subcutaneous adipose tissue.

visceral fat contains more mitochondrial matrix to make more fat from, and this can be completed as seen in billions of signals within minutes inside the mitochondrial matrix. So either burn the excess (energy) so it doesn't go to fat storage. Or...add a supplement that breaks down fats.

[Lotus]

Oh so this is T5 development I'm curious on what caused this, Progesterone cream on the nipples I'm guessing reached the TEBs and allowed this? Would you mind breaking this down, I'd love to read it 

Hey Mel, 

You'll have to ask Stevenator about his method on applying progesterone cream to the areolas. I will say inhibiting adrenals has a positive impact on nipples, and applying estriol and royal jelly makes nipples pops....but so does using suction cups too. 

[Stevenator_]

Thank you, Lotus. I wish I’d made the connection years ago. I had a 2nd shift high stress physical job and I’d come home to a casserole. As much work as I did/do in the garden & the yard on my off days, I guess it wasn’t enough.

[Heaven's Night]

Interesting, the mention about visceral fat. For some reason, (genetics?) I have never had much at all even when being chubby and even when I was quite heavy drinker in past... Seems that I get almost all fat as subcutaneous naturally, I think this is why I have quite easy time both gaining and losing weight.

Not my thread but I just wanted to point this out.

[Stevenator_]

Practically my entire working career was in the same industry. I did spend about two years working on fishing boats in the Florida Keys, though. I spent 22 years working ramp operations outside loading jumbo jet aircraft and the last 16 years I moved inside to deal with the ever increasing maniacal traveling public. The last two years were the killer for me when lockdowns turned into early retirement. My working career was pretty much 10 hour days of exhausting manual labor, (try unloading & loading 5 back to back 757’s all day every day in 34° rain or 105° heat), or screaming passengers calling you racist because you point out their bags are 5 lbs over weight, etc. Weather delayed missed connections overnight accommodations and passenger reroute of thousands of people are the worst. 

So, day after day after weeks upon months and years of this, it was all I could do to just get out of bed and make it to work, let alone even thinking about going to a gymnasium. I could have stayed on but I chose to take an early retirement. The truth be told, I was literally at the breaking point. If I’d stayed on through the transition, I have no doubt whatsoever that I would have had either a heart attack or a nervous breakdown. I spent 38 years in an industry that I truly loved until the traveling public became frothing at the mouth raging lunatics. My only concern after a 100mph rage battle to race home was a big bottle of wine and a giant pan of some sort of comfort food. I knew my job was killing me, I didn’t make the connection to the diet though. No doubt stress played a huge factor through all of this. When either reflecting upon this or even trying to relate to others the sheer horror I felt at looking at a literal sea of angry people waiting for service no one has ever been able to understand and comprehend the madness that I endured. So I sit here with the thousand yard stare as I think about those many, many horrible days. 

While my success with NBE has been limited, and I certainly have my faults, I’m pretty committed now to righting this ship. Exercise is still a limitation to me. Even though I’m 60, working a homestead garden and taking care of this large property and even caring for my chickens is a major physical chore. For instance, just cutting my four acres of grass requires a day of rest. The change of growing seasons pulling up one crop and starting another requires is at least a week in bed to recover from. 

While I do what I can, I still cheer on those better than me. I will always be a friend to others who are on the same journey as me. I wish everyone the best of success. I’m in no competition with others. Of course I get jealous at the beautiful success everyone else has, but most of all I value everyone’s friendship most of all.

I’ll keep studying the lessons of Lotus. I found some gems last night from 2016 that I’ll share in a bit. I apologize if this post seems a little down. I’m a bit depressed this morning and pretty pooped from yesterday’s work outside. 

The one good thing I’m most happy about is I’ve finally got the wife onboard with the diet. That was a very tough nut to crack but given the state of societal affairs I think she’s finally starting to connect the dots. 

If nothing else, I’m feeling so much better from the change in diet alone. To be honest, it’s not “just about losing weight”, to me it’s about getting healthy and erasing the damage that a lifetime of terrible food ingredients have done to our bodies. Growing my own food the last six years was a slow realization to get to this point. I mean, just look at the ingredients list on the back of a box of food. It’s full of 20 letter word ingredients, 30 ingredients long. I’m so over boxed food it’s unbelievable the damage the food industry is doing to us. This is my new crusade. 

Anyway. Enough of this for now. 

One last thing. Support your local farmers. Try to avoid supermarket meats. I personally buy our beef from a farmer down the road. Grass fed to butcher to my freezer. I’m all about natural foods now.

[Lotus]

Interesting, the mention about visceral fat. For some reason, (genetics?) I have never had much at all even when being chubby and even when I was quite heavy drinker in past... Seems that I get almost all fat as subcutaneous naturally, I think this is why I have quite easy time both gaining and losing weight.

Not my thread but I just wanted to point this out.

Hey there Lara, 

Nobody escapes visceral fat, on average visceral fat starts @ 10% of whole body fat while the rest is subcutaneous fat.  
  
Visceral Fat
According to the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, if you’re a woman and your waist measures 35 inches or larger, you’re at risk for health problems from visceral fat.

Men are at risk for health problems when their waist measures 40 inches or larger.
https://www.healthline.com/health/viscer...#diagnosis

My waist is 34 inches, I worked hard for that ?

Metabolic alterations following visceral fat removal and expansion 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3609102/

The clinical importance of visceral adiposity: a critical review of methods for visceral adipose tissue analysis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3473928/

[Stevenator_]

I just know that I’m experiencing a growth spurt of sorts right now that I haven’t noticed in a long time. While I’m feeling faint growing pains, I’m definitely noticing much more fullness. When wearing a bra or laying on my back while bra less in bed they feel much more full. 

Perhaps it’s attributed to a more religious approach to MSM & Melatonin, or even cleansing the liver. I’m hoping it’s a combination of everything. Adding Milk Thistle & Berberine (the natural identical version of Metamorfin) to cleanse the liver, and practically everything I’m doing now that is healthy I feel is contributing to this latest growth spurt. So many things I’m consuming now whether it’s EVOO or Lemon Juice or Red Reishi, Cayenne & American Ginseng, choline etc, has been covered in the Project-X thread. I’m 100% convinced that cleansing the liver is vital to not only our our overall health, but our feminization programs, too.