[Shirazmn]

While I am on a forced break from everything NBE as I need all the calcium and stamina I can possibly get to fix a broken bone, I am thinking on what to do once I can restart (in 3 to 6 months, depending on how fast the leg heals).
I still have over 200 caps of PM, so I'll definitely continue with that.

I was wondering if I wanted to try White Peony (WP).
While I still want to "take it slow and easy" with growth in terms of cup size (I am a 38B and anything much bigger could be a problem for my male-staying-male lifestyle), I would like to have:
- A slightly rounder shape of the breast, with a better definition of the underboob (Inframmary fold)
- Just a tiny bit of nipple growth
- Possibly some wider hips and slimmer waist

So, knowing that WP has the power to add to the natural body Estrogen while converting some T into E, I was wondering if anyone has any direct experience with just adding WP to PM, and if you remember the dosage you are/were using.
So, the questions about WP (as an addition to PM) are:

1) Did it actually make a difference not just in the size but in the shape of your breasts?
2) Did it cause any other change? (Butt? Hips?)
3) Any side-effects (for example on the libido)?

4) Was it horribly expensive? (in the UK 90 caps cost around $40) - And how many caps a day did you take?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

[Vana_B]

While I am on a forced break from everything NBE as I need all the calcium and stamina I can possibly get to fix a broken bone, I am thinking on what to do once I can restart (in 3 to 6 months, depending on how fast the leg heals).
I still have over 200 caps of PM, so I'll definitely continue with that.

I was wondering if I wanted to try White Peony (WP).
While I still want to "take it slow and easy" with growth in terms of cup size (I am a 38B and anything much bigger could be a problem for my male-staying-male lifestyle), I would like to have:
- A slightly rounder shape of the breast, with a better definition of the underboob (Inframmary fold)
- Just a tiny bit of nipple growth
- Possibly some wider hips and slimmer waist

So, knowing that WP has the power to add to the natural body Estrogen while converting some T into E, I was wondering if anyone has any direct experience with just adding WP to PM, and if you remember the dosage you are/were using.
So, the questions about WP (as an addition to PM) are:

1) Did it actually make a difference not just in the size but in the shape of your breasts?
2) Did it cause any other change? (Butt? Hips?)
3) Any side-effects (for example on the libido)?

4) Was it horribly expensive? (in the UK 90 caps cost around $40) - And how many caps a day did you take?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

I have tried an oral dosage of 475mg (1 pill a day).    I think it does a good job of lowing T levels...actually too much for me.      Feels very similar to the effect I get from reshi mushroom.    I prefer the milder effects of Saw Palmetto, as it doesn't kill my erections like WP and Reshi does.  

I am currently dissolving the pills I have in water and applying topically on my chest/nipples along with PM.   I'm a big fan of using herbs topically. 

It is inexpensive in the US,  with a 100 pills for $13 USD.

[Shirazmn]

I have tried an oral dosage of 475mg (1 pill a day).    I think it does a good job of lowing T levels...actually too much for me.      Feels very similar to the effect I get from reshi mushroom.    I prefer the milder effects of Saw Palmetto, as it doesn't kill my erections like WP and Reshi does.  

I am currently dissolving the pills I have in water and applying topically on my chest/nipples along with PM.   I'm a big fan of using herbs topically. 

It is inexpensive in the US,  with a 100 pills for $13 USD.

Thank you for the reply.
Wow! So you are saying that WP is stronger than SP at killing libido? Dang! SP manages to kill all my erections in just 2 days

When the time comes I'll still try WP and see how it goes. I am not really happy about wasting $40 on something I can't use, but we'll see how it goes.

[tanysquirrel]

I have tried an oral dosage of 475mg (1 pill a day).    I think it does a good job of lowing T levels...actually too much for me.      Feels very similar to the effect I get from reshi mushroom.    I prefer the milder effects of Saw Palmetto, as it doesn't kill my erections like WP and Reshi does.  

I am currently dissolving the pills I have in water and applying topically on my chest/nipples along with PM.   I'm a big fan of using herbs topically. 

It is inexpensive in the US,  with a 100 pills for $13 USD.

Thank you for the reply.
Wow! So you are saying that WP is stronger than SP at killing libido? Dang! SP manages to kill all my erections in just 2 days

When the time comes I'll still try WP and see how it goes. I am not really happy about wasting $40 on something I can't use, but we'll see how it goes.

check on amazon for white peony extract from hawaiianpharms. i spent 29 i think for a 4 oz bottle well worth the price. take it sublingually (hold it under tongue for 30 sec to 1 min) then swallow remainder

[Teddy]

I have tried an oral dosage of 475mg (1 pill a day).    I think it does a good job of lowing T levels...actually too much for me.      Feels very similar to the effect I get from reshi mushroom.    I prefer the milder effects of Saw Palmetto, as it doesn't kill my erections like WP and Reshi does.  

I am currently dissolving the pills I have in water and applying topically on my chest/nipples along with PM.   I'm a big fan of using herbs topically. 

It is inexpensive in the US,  with a 100 pills for $13 USD.

Thank you for the reply.
Wow! So you are saying that WP is stronger than SP at killing libido? Dang! SP manages to kill all my erections in just 2 days

When the time comes I'll still try WP and see how it goes. I am not really happy about wasting $40 on something I can't use, but we'll see how it goes.

check on amazon for white peony extract from hawaiianpharms. i spent 29 i think for a 4 oz bottle well worth the price. take it sublingually (hold it under tongue for 30 sec to 1 min) then swallow remainder

Hi,
I noticed, that amazon.co.uk was selling WP tincture from Indigo Herbs, 100ml for £16.45
I have no idea regarding relative strength of that compared with Hawaiian Pharm product. However, it is obviously easier & cheaper to buy while in UK.
(My problem with UK sellers is the bloody Brexit, adding a complication and expense to imports to Sweden, or any other country in EU. In "old good before-Brexit" times I often ordered stuff from UK, now its seldom. . And White Peony isn't easy to find in EU .)

-Teddy

[tanysquirrel]

I have tried an oral dosage of 475mg (1 pill a day).    I think it does a good job of lowing T levels...actually too much for me.      Feels very similar to the effect I get from reshi mushroom.    I prefer the milder effects of Saw Palmetto, as it doesn't kill my erections like WP and Reshi does.  

I am currently dissolving the pills I have in water and applying topically on my chest/nipples along with PM.   I'm a big fan of using herbs topically. 

It is inexpensive in the US,  with a 100 pills for $13 USD.

Thank you for the reply.
Wow! So you are saying that WP is stronger than SP at killing libido? Dang! SP manages to kill all my erections in just 2 days

When the time comes I'll still try WP and see how it goes. I am not really happy about wasting $40 on something I can't use, but we'll see how it goes.

check on amazon for white peony extract from hawaiianpharms. i spent 29 i think for a 4 oz bottle well worth the price. take it sublingually (hold it under tongue for 30 sec to 1 min) then swallow remainder