[Lunalander]

Is it safe/effective to only be taking PM?

I see a lot of people on here taking a whole bunch of things. Just wondering if I’ll see any results/is it safe to only take PM. I don’t think I’m comfortable yet taking a whole load of different substances. 

Currently on 500mg morning and afternoon of Anterol PM. Any help is much appreciated

[Stevenator_]

I only just took PM for my first two years, and I think my development suffered. At the bare minimum, you need an Anti-Androgen. Red Reishi is the best herbal AA at stopping DHT, and DHT is the enemy of breast growth. White Peony is also an excellent AA, as it converts Testosterone to Estrogen. They can be taken together. Best of Luck to you going forward.

[Lunalander]

I only just took PM for my first two years, and I think my development suffered. At the bare minimum, you need an Anti-Androgen. Red Reishi is the best herbal AA at stopping DHT, and DHT is the enemy of breast growth. 

Thank you Stevenator_. I might have to try some then. Just don’t know where to buy any. I’m in Australia

[Stevenator_]

I’m not familiar with your online marketplaces, but you should be able to source both of them there.

I know a lot of the American market is supplied by Chinese Red Reishi. I’ve seen that Japanese farming practices are supposedly better for Reishi, but it’s expensive. The stuff is native to my area, and I wish that I could source local Reishi myself.

White Peony is a traditional Chinese medicine, so I bet you could get either of them in Australia. In a pinch, Saw Palmetto would work, and Spearmint is an option, too.

But I do believe the science quoted here on BN in order of preference is: Red Reishi, White Peony, Saw Palmetto, then Spearmint.

Best of Luck to you.

[Lunalander]

Thanks Steve.

Yeah I can only seem to find Saw Palmetto. Would that be worth a try to begin?

Thank you!

[Stevenator_]

Lots of people take SP with PM, if that’s all you can find.

I’d do a keyword search at the bottom of the page in both the Breast Growing Notes & Project-X threads for more information, if you have any questions. That’s where Lotus posted all the science about NBE.

[VergeOfDiscovery]

Re: Can you take just PM?I don’t think I’m comfortable yet taking a whole load of different substances. 

That's your better judgment kicking in. Any supplement can be taxing on one's system, so feeling out what this one alone, by itself can do (before adding others) is perhaps a wise approach.

That said, another angle to your question, some purveyors of PM suggest consuming something with calcium while using PM (something as simple as milk).

Does one need an anti androgen? Not necessarily. Ask yourself, are the effects of an anti androgen one of your goals? They may not be.

[flamesabers]

Hello Lunalander,

Yes, you can only take PM if that's what you want to do. My records aren't completely through, but I think for a decent part of my NBE journey, I took only PM.

Especially for those starting their NBE journey, I recommend keeping it simple to make it easier to rule out what products are working and which ones aren't. Unless you're particularly sensitive to PM, you might need more than 1,000 mg per day to trigger breast development.