[Karen Hart]

Ooops! I think my dyslexia kicked in and I took that from the post below yours. Sorry. 

[notveryinteresting]

5 weeks in and nothing, NADA, zip, zilch, zero budding or growth, but my skin feels softer. 
I've all but lost my morning wood, but I have not had a problem achieving an erection when I want one.
The WP tincture, I struggle with as I can't stand the taste, I wonder if it wouldwork if applied to the skin?
The prog cream, is certainly having an affect, I've been applying it on areas where I have strong body hair growth and it's certainly knocked it back.
But I want to start budding.
I'm looking at buying some PM cream.

My regime looks more like this

 Morning 6am
1 pump of WY cream 2-3 times a week
850mg GTE cap opened in to 0.5L of water with some lemon juice. (I've been taking 1/2 cap in 0.5l of water but not as often as I'd like, Need to get back on to this) 
1mg finesteride 
1 6000mg PM cap 
1 5000mg RM cap
1 ml of Monoxodil after showering

about 10am when I eat
1 6000mg PM cap
1 5000mg RM cap

4pm
1 6000mg PM cap 
1 5000mg RM cap
1 1000iu D3

9pm I've been forgetting my last dose

Bed time
Small amount of prog cream around my nipples to reduce strength of the hair 3-4 times a week.

I've been pumping a few times a week, but the cups I have, have thin rims and seem to press very hard against me an don't let the swelling happen, I'm stretching into the cups but I get discoloration and a small amount of bruising.
A little dispondant.
Danni x

[notveryinteresting]

I forgot to add head hair
A noticeable improvement, almost 6 months in to finesteride, 5 weeks on PM, 4 on RM. The RM seems to have knocked the DHT down. Where I was thinning on top has completely changed my hair dresser is interested too.....

[IanW55]

Hi,

I have sent you a private email, I hope you will read it in the spirit it has been sent.

Thanks
Liz

[notveryinteresting]

I have replied to your email and to you on the when enough is enough thread and await your responses

[notveryinteresting]

Lotus pointed out to me, I may be taking too much PM & RM so I've cut them in half
But from reading I really need to up my GTE so ill add a couple of those in to the mix and see how we go.

Still no growth budding or itchiness.

[Teddy]

Lotus has done a lot of research, and is for sure right regarding dosage.

However, do not over-do GTE, as it can have adverse effect in liver (and remember that actually also PM will stress liver). Btw. Milk Thistle is purported to support liver and reduce risks. However, the research results are bit spotty.

Also, it seems that using PM extracts isn't the best way, because depending which solvent and which process is used, the results will be quite different, and contents may have less phytoestrogens than the extraction ratio indicates. Personally I have gone for Ainterol (from www.ainterol.eu), and bought it in powder format. It is nearly tasteless, and I mix it in yogurt. They have capsules, too, which many people seem to prefer. That Ainterol brand seems to be very rich in right types of phytoestrogens, and given results to many - and also to me. Exact dosage may vary, but I see development with about 1000mg/day, combinded with RR and taking also 750mg GTE.

In the end: Please note, that growing breasts is a sluggish process, and takes time. Like running marathon instead of a sprint.

-Teddy

[notveryinteresting]

I've had family visit with us for a month and I planned to have a break and reset supplements whilst they we're here. Now they are gone it's time to plan re starting.

The fin and RR seem to have been working as my sex drive has increased.

But I'm not sure where to get the estrogen from, atinarol seems to be the best for pills but I'd rather not put strain on my liver if I can find a cream, I bought some Prog bio-identical cream from eBay that definitely had an effect on the hair growth, but is there an estrogen one that is as good? Only one way to find out, it's branded (if you can call it that) EELHOE and at £7 for 100ml it's worth a go, any one tried it?

I can't use Amazon as the whole family has access to it.
Any other suggestions before I give up and go buy Atinarol?

[IanW55]

Hi,

Hope you are well, this might help, I used it before I went onto HRT, also you can get it sent to you without anyone knowing, if you look at one of the posts that Lotus posted she used it or somthing simular, but dont quote me on that.

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiDmPb-oPuBAxXzloMHHSfFBMkYABANGgJlZg&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg5j2_qD7gQMV85aDBx0nxQTJEAQYAiABEgJdGvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_1Htb6fwgPTE7Izbh5UyJqD-rft4Q&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjwr-z-oPuBAxUOiv0HHVb3AsIQ9aACKAB6BAgEECM&adurl=

The other thing I still have some PM for sale and will let you have them very cheaply, I ended up using it as a cream directly oto my boobs so it did not go via my Liver if interested send me a pm.

Went onto HRT via Gendergp, look at their site, might be of use to you
Liz

[notveryinteresting]

Thank you Liz, I'll look at that.
I think I need to go back to basics and start the budding off as I've got no buds at all, this may be a solution.