[Jts13892]

I’ve been back in BO for about a week and a half after about maybe 5 months off and I noticed the effects are coming on much quicker. So I’ve dabbled with BO for about 2 years now, and every time I restarted I thought maybe it started working sooner than it did the last time but I wasn’t really sure. Well this time I have no doubt it’s happening. After about a week and a half on BO this time I feel like I’ve been on it a month or more already. Last time I did it for a couple of months and it’s like I’m picking up right where I left off. My testicles have already shrunk back down. They used to not even start shrinking until a month in. My hips and entire pelvis are extremely sore along with all my muscles and my joints are clicking and popping especially my lower half. My breasts have puffed immediately back up to where they were when I quit BO.  

So I’m thinking when we do BO for awhile and quit our bodies keep getting better at processing it, or it is permanently changing us even when we quit and things seemingly go back to normal. It’s like every time I take BO there’s a switch that keeps getting easier to flip and when I quit it’s maybe getting harder to flip off. So I’m wondering if we can hit a point of not being able to flip that switch off anymore the longer we take BO.

[Lexichicago]

Funny I noticed sane thing.  I back on after a few months off and my boy parts shrunk more right away.  I just love how I feel when on BO

[Karen Hart]

JTS, you have some interesting ideas about BO. I also tend to believe that once the BO switch is flipped, it is always working in the background, at least it has in my experience.

I don't know if you ever read my thread about "My Unique BO Experience" where i talked about flipping my switch with only 3 doses in three days. That was around January of 2023. I took those doses around the middle of December of 2022, IIRC. I have not taken a dose since then. It appears that I am still growing, though very slowly. My sperm production has been going up and down somewhat... weird. At one point I thought it was going back to normal but it reversed and at this time is almost non-existent. My testes have shrunk about 30% and feel kind of soft (but the "soft" part may be in my head). My butt is growing too and I am very weak. I have not observed any other physical changes. I have not lost any weight around my mid-section. 

Mentally, my short-term memory is getting very bad and I make many typing and spelling mistakes. I do not know if this attributable to BO but it sure could be because I did not have these problems prior. I mentioned in my "Unique" post that I had lost all interest in crossdressing. That too has since, fluctuated. Interest went to near zero at one point. At this time, there is some pleasure in it but it's not nearly the same as before. For example, lingerie used to feel so taboo and exciting, now it is just clothing.

I have all the boobage that I want now but may have to live with whatever comes over the next year or two. I would never have experimented with BO if I had not read that one has to take it for 6 months to flip the switch. I thought that I had some time to play around and experiment, just to see if BO had anything to offer that the herbs I had used for 20 years didn't have. Well... it did, and now I may regret playing around with it. Oh, I like what I have and I can still pass it off as a side-effect of my medication but that could become more and more difficult.

Karen

[Epeters7507]

I’ve been back in BO for about a week and a half after about maybe 5 months off and I noticed the effects are coming on much quicker. So I’ve dabbled with BO for about 2 years now, and every time I restarted I thought maybe it started working sooner than it did the last time but I wasn’t really sure. Well this time I have no doubt it’s happening. After about a week and a half on BO this time I feel like I’ve been on it a month or more already. Last time I did it for a couple of months and it’s like I’m picking up right where I left off. My testicles have already shrunk back down. They used to not even start shrinking until a month in. My hips and entire pelvis are extremely sore along with all my muscles and my joints are clicking and popping especially my lower half. My breasts have puffed immediately back up to where they were when I quit BO.  

So I’m thinking when we do BO for awhile and quit our bodies keep getting better at processing it, or it is permanently changing us even when we quit and things seemingly go back to normal. It’s like every time I take BO there’s a switch that keeps getting easier to flip and when I quit it’s maybe getting harder to flip off. So I’m wondering if we can hit a point of not being able to flip that switch off anymore the longer we take BO.

I too am back on it after an extended break. I’ve written about this, but the longer one takes BO, the more dependent they become on it. Aromatase is located in fat cells, breast tissue, bones and the brain among others. I don’t know if it’s physical or mental, but the nagging wouldn’t subside.

For one who already is blocking androgens, I think 3 doses can “flip a switch” where others may need time to reduce their T levels before changes occur.

So, referring to JTS, it makes sense that the changes happened quicker than before. Those of us who have dabbled with BO, our aromatase levels are higher than others who have not. Hence, changes come on super fast.

I’m back on my full regiment and despite the fullness and soreness in my breasts, I feel at peace and in harmony between body and mind. Depending on what I wear, I look very feminine, even if the clothes aren’t very gender specific. 

Look, it takes a cis woman 10 years to mature with a full woman’s body. We can’t expect miracles in a matter of months.

[Heaven's Night]

I could join the crowd to talk about BO being really strange with the way it works... Since I took the first one, I never stopped and I'm not planning to stop. Its doing something no HRT alone can do, to me it feels like balancing things perfectly, something nothing else has been able to do and I do think there is a point where it somehow becomes permanent. If my dear Melissa would be around, she could explain this really well as she had some interesting ideas about how exactly it happens.

Flipping a switch is a good analogy about it, it really appears to happen like that. But I have noted not only the total time on it, but time on said dosage also. I'm hitting three months on 1500mg per day in just few days and three month mark has been interesing several times before... Just wondering if there will be another one where things go on high gear? I feel like the growth spurt I'm in has been quickening lately.

Right now I've been on bovine ovary since March 30th 2022. So what does it, eighteen months?

[tomi66]

@jts13892, 
I believe it's the magic of BO. Well not magic but the little studied effects of BO on us. I am going on 13 months now and slowly ramping down, it took me a good  3 months before I started feeling breasts growth, but my goal was famine growth and features.

 I did read that average time is 6 months for it to induce permanent changes but could happen sooner. Also as someone mentioned, it flips a switch in the brain and after so much time, yet to be determined, it's different forall of us, the changes are permanent and we can't turn it off, even after stopping. Which is why I went with BO. Like Didi, I am happy with the results, except for the difficulty in getting an erection, but once I am off it should become easier, although I don't know if my testicles will grow back, they are pretty small even in the heat. 

I always tell people on her now, if you don't want permanent feminine changes don't take BO, and especially don't take the BO with Petuitary Glandular, that helps the process along. 

So I really do hope it's permanent because I can be the girl I always wanted to be and the man that I have always been. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone  but it's a great feeling to have. Now if my wife could get over her fears of me going out dressed up it would be even better.  

[tomi66]

@JTS13892 
That's the magic of BO, well maybe not magic but the effects of a poorly studied supplement. When I was deciding on what route to take I read about BO and the possibility of permanent effects after 6 months of use but it could happen sooner and some said it did nothing at all and was a myth. 

I also read that it works on the hypothalamus region of the brain and causes permanent changes, or flips a switch if you will,initiating a permanent change, causing a male to start producing E and slow down on T because it tricks our brain into thinking we have enough T, at least that's the best I can explain it, but eventually the change is permanent, and we start to take on feminine features, even after stopping. 

I haven't stopped yet, I am on month 13 and starting on my reduction in dosage, but one thing I have noticed over the past 6 months is my hips are sore and over the past 2 months my breasts are a little tender. What happened almost immediately was testicular shrinkage and over time loss of the ability to maintain an election without the help of cialis and viagra, even then it's short lived. 

So I started BO with PG or Petuitary Glandular blend knowing what I was doing, I wanted feminine features and feminine breasts, notman boobs or to be aboy in a dress. I am really happy with the results and glad it worked for me.

I also always warn people, if you just want breasts and don't want permanent feminine changes don't take BO, you may start something you don't want and can't stop. 

But hey, I wanted the changes and love the effects, I feel like the girl I have always wanted to be and the man that I have always been. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone. 

[Lexichicago]

I completely agree with this idea that some people just tuned to BO after start.  For myself I was off a few months and within a few days of starting again I already feel it working again.  For me BO has meant over a cup.size in breasts as I now almost a full b cup.  Massive fat storage in thighs and ass.  And real shrinkage to penis.  I have lost not only close to.3 inches in length but hirtj def taken a hit.  I used to be too wide for a cage I had bought years ago and now I fit in it with room to spare.  BO is real for me as I have to bind now to pass as a guy when go out with wife.

[Melissa24]

Hi Lexichicago, how long have you been on BO and how long did it take to get to size B? Do you have any photos while on BO? I'm curious to see how PM difference from BO in photos. I've noticed nobody is posting photos while taking BO, only photos while on PM, HRT and other supplements. I've switched from PM to BO a few weeks ago and so far not much difference. Thanks in advance

[Lexichicago]

Been on and off for over a year now.  The longest was a full 6 months solid.