[Brianna]

I see so many different answers and while I know everyone is different as is how their body will react. I'm just curious what a good starting point is for the PG and RR mostly. I have started with 250 twice daily of the BO. Currently taking 500 RR and 80 PG along with my morning and evening BG. 

Total 500mg BO per day, just started.

Total 1000mg per day of RR

Total of 160mg per day of PG.

Appreciate any input or suggestions!

[tomi66]

Hi Brianna,
I can't speak to the PG or RR. The BO sounds like a reasonable start. I slowly increased a little every month until I hit my highest tolerable dosage, Itook a regimen late afternoonand then again before bed, now I just take it once a day theraputicaly. There is a point where more doesn't do anything extra but may strain your liver. I also take milk thistle, which helps clens the liver and rids excess estrogen.

[Brianna]

Thank you Tomi.

[wee2er]

HI Brianna
Welcome to the brill world of NBE  

I'm on HRT with BO & PG, and from all the research I've done it seems like the optimal / sensible dosage is BO @ 1500mg/day and PG @ 160mg/day.
There is also lots of discussion around keeping your body temperature up using kelp, which I've never bothered with as I always feel warm so presume my that I have a warm core temp.

From my experience is doesn't seem to do anything unless I'm at that optimal dosage, of which I've been on now for a couple of months, I'm aiming to do around 6-months on BO/PG to see how/if it feminises my lower half, then I'll evaluate if its worth continuing or not. 
Results so far seem positive, there has definitely been some fat redistribution, but of course this might be the HRT of which I've been on now for over a year, so who knows?

As you are doing, start off slow, build up and be consistent with it.

Good luck and enjoy the changes

[Caylee]

Wee2er,

I’m on HRT under DR. care.  I was wondering if the other herbs you take effect your blood work?  Mainly a rise in estrogen level.

Thanks,

Pooky

[Brianna]

HI Brianna
Welcome to the brill world of NBE  

I'm on HRT with BO & PG, and from all the research I've done it seems like the optimal / sensible dosage is BO @ 1500mg/day and PG @ 160mg/day.
There is also lots of discussion around keeping your body temperature up using kelp, which I've never bothered with as I always feel warm so presume my that I have a warm core temp.

From my experience is doesn't seem to do anything unless I'm at that optimal dosage, of which I've been on now for a couple of months, I'm aiming to do around 6-months on BO/PG to see how/if it feminises my lower half, then I'll evaluate if its worth continuing or not. 
Results so far seem positive, there has definitely been some fat redistribution, but of course this might be the HRT of which I've been on now for over a year, so who knows?

As you are doing, start off slow, build up and be consistent with it.

Good luck and enjoy the changes

Thank you. That's what I had read as well. I'm planning on working up to 1500 of BO and keeping with the same dose on the PG and RR.

[wee2er]

Wee2er,

I’m on HRT under DR. care.  I was wondering if the other herbs you take effect your blood work?  Mainly a rise in estrogen level.

Thanks,

Pooky

Hi Pooky,

Unfortunately my HRT is under the radar as my doc wont entertain it unless I'm transitioning, of which I have zero intention of doing and even if I did, it would be a good couple of years before anything happens due to the sorry state the UK's NHS gender services are!
However, I've had a blood problem for many years now, which the NHS have been brilliant with so I have quarterly blood checks - heart, liver, kidneys, and lots of other checks , but doesn't include any hormone levels   
The only 'odd' blood test results I've had was when I started on VitD, which caused my VitD levels to go through the roof, which has lots of dangers, so reduced it to a much safer level now.
Other than that I've not had anything 'odd' being on herbs and for over 12-months now on HRT, to which I added BO, PG & prog cream a month or so back.
As I've no idea of my hormone levels I'll get a private blood works done but need to find the money to do it later on in the year.
But, my current regime does seem to be working well, lower half is starting to slowly feminise and my boobs are filling up, in fact a bit scary as to how much they are filling out!
Weezer

[Caylee]

Wee2er

Thanks for the info.  I was wondering about adding BO with my HRT.  I didn’t want to do anything that might throw my estrogen level out of proportion.  As I go to DR. in 4 weeks for possibly an increase in estrogen.

Thanks,

Pooky

[tomi66]

Hi Pooky,
While I am not on HRT, I have read from others on here that are on HRT, that they are also supplementing with BO and they really like the effects. Not an exact quote but they say it helps balance out the hormone treatment.

[wee2er]

Wee2er

Thanks for the info.  I was wondering about adding BO with my HRT.  I didn’t want to do anything that might throw my estrogen level out of proportion.  As I go to DR. in 4 weeks for possibly an increase in estrogen.

Thanks,

Pooky

Hi Pooky,
HRT via the docs s by far the best route, I wish I had that option but hey ho.
One of the reasons why I decided to try BO/PG was that its relatively cheap, (Swanson BO&PG is $30/$50/month) and for some they have had fantastic feminisation results.
However, what I have gathered is that it needs consistency over a decent amount of time for it to do its thang, taking it for a few weeks or a couple of months is likely not worth it.
Then there is the mythical 'switch' , 'point of no return' at around the 3-month stage that many talk about.
Personally, I think that's more psychological than physical, in that they have mentally accepted transitioning - lets face it the mind is a VERY powerful machine, other than any actual hard and fast rewiring of our T generators down below.
But I may well be and I completely accept that I am totally wrong on that as lots will testify  
I've committed to a 6-month trial of BO@1500mg/day & PG@240mg/day, but have also just added prog cream (3-month trial) and now evaluating the addition of a 6-month trial on DHEA (with thanks to or our lovely sage Lotus x) to see if it all helps me achieve my overall body feminisation goal.
As you are transitioning a similar regime might be worth considering?
Good luck, take it slow an listen to your body  
Hope that helps.