anyone care to elaborate on why you should not have caffeine
when on herbs EG PM
and if u do have a coffee or a red bull can u just have an extra PM or SP
to make up for it

as im a person that has 1 redbull a day to get me though work as i work 9 hour shifts

I think the hairy shirt brigade, have taken a down on caffeine, the source of all ills. As is so often the case, it turns out to be bollocks. After a brief interval of limited intake, I returned to my usual regime, of 4 to 8 mugs of the strongest black coffee going and I have a chest, to prove; Bollocks!

thats good i need my coffee