[Pali1010]

I’m curious to know if anyone has taken only PM and what the results were? I have recently purchased the Barlowe brand of PM and will start taking it soon. I was thinking I would start with a dose of 500mg for a while and see where that goes. I think I would just like to slowly progress by using only one supplement if that’s possible. Curious to see what other people have tried and learned. 

Also is PM addictive? Once you start have you found yourself wanting to take it more and more as your desire to have bigger breasts keeps growing? 

Thanks for your thoughts!

[Chris79]

Hi Palichuk
I tried "PM only" out of curiosity (because I'd read that it lets men grow breasts and could not believe it). Anyway: Taking only the RDA for post-menopausal women (one pill a day), I observed nothing, but some time after switching to two pills a day I started to feel my breasts budding, which I found immensely pleasurable. So PM seems not to be addictive, but that feeling could be.

[BuddingB]

I use barlowe's and I started with just the one pill, at 550 mg daily. I wanted to be sure there were no side effects and that my body would tolerate PM. It did and initially, my thought was to increase to twice daily (1100mg) and to also use a conservative supporting regime of Red Reishi, green tea, D3 and possibly DIM. I started to feel some results fairly quickly from just the PM with the itchiness and soreness and then to quite a bit of contact pain in my breasts. All symptoms that it was working. I also did gain about an inch overall with a bit of a conical shape to my breast area. The early success did scare me a little and I put a pause on things to reevaluate what I was doing and if I really wanted to continue and possible develop noticeable breasts.

At the same time, it was always in the back of my mind to be careful with this. The liver can only take so much abuse and everything I read from reports/studies on PM linked here in other threads, was that over 1000mg daily for more than 6 months is when there is an increased possibility of doing yourself some harm. Not that it would definitely happen, but the chances increase that it might. Again, I was taking a very conservative approach to all this. Many here have taken larger doses and for long periods with no issues.

I have started and stopped a couple times now, still with just the PM. Overall, I gained about an inch and a half and still with the conical shape. To me, it is a little more than a "manboob" but I was not looking for large breasts and was really just hoping for an A or B cup. I'm confident if I do continue again and even with just the safer lower dosage of 550mg (or possibly the larger 1100mg dose), but this time adding the supporting regime to increase the odds of success and to help with better development, that I could reach my desired goal.

Everyone is different, some take a lot and get nothing, some like me, for some reason, get some success and more than likely that would continue, if I do, with this. Be sure it is what you want though. If you do develop breast tissue, that is permanent. I'm still deciding if I want to start again

[Stevenator_]

You'll get more better results if you add an Anti-Androgen, that just using PM alone .....

[Karen Hart]

It is fairly well established that most people get the best results by combining at least three elements:

1. An anti-androgen to suppress one's natural male testosterone level. Without an AA, it will be an uphill battle. Red Reishi or White Peony.
2. A source of estrogen. In this case PM but could also be Fenugreek or bioidentical estrogen cream (which would be my choice)
3. After budding, a source of Progesterone, such as bioidentical progesterone cream.

It may be possible to take a high enough dose of PM to overcome one's testosterone but that would likely be a very large dose and then safety concerns come into play.
Not recommended.

JMO.

Karen 

[Pali1010]

Thank you so much for the response! I have always had a desire to have real female Breasts and I think I am finally at the point where I no longer care what people think and am open to growing them to a point of no return meaning I would no longer be able to hide them. I have been using the natureday products for about 3 years now and have seen some results but not quite enough to have full satisfaction. Right now I am sitting just bigger than a full A cup but would definitely like to increase that to full B or even C cup. Thats why I was maybe thinking of trying PM for a while to see if I can get that little bit more of an increase. here’s the tricky part. I am happily married and definitely straight at the moment so I really don’t want to screw either of those up. My wife is very supportive but wants to make sure that it’s not going to ruin my ability of still having kids or losing my attraction for women in any way. It seems by reading a lot of threads on this site that most guys that truly desire real female breasts like myself end up taking all the hormones to achieve just that and then end up discovering that they would like to pursue a full female transition. I really would love to just use PM for a while and get some bigger more feminine like breasts and I’m even okay with some of the other feminine affects just don’t want to lose my manly hood. What are your thoughts on this after actually using potent PM and knowing what it can do to you. Thank you so much!

[Karen Hart]

This is a difficult situation. 

In order to grow breasts, you must have dominant female hormones but that entails at least some loss of erectile ability.
The best strategy that I can think of is to take just enough herbs to where you just start losing erectile ability and then back off if it becomes too much.
As your ability starts to come back, increase the herbs again and try to maintain that ebb & flow. That might be very difficult to maintain. 

Yes, these herbs can make you feel more feminine and, to more enthusiastically pursue femininity. I don't think that is a given but I know it is true for many people.
Also, more breast growth can drive you to crave even more. Again, not a given. It does not work the same way for everyone.

If you want to try PM only, go for it. Most of us, if not all of us, learned what works, from our own experimentation.

I hope some one else can chime in with better advice.

Karen 

[Pali1010]

Thank you for the advise! And honestly I think that’s a great plan! I would have no problem taking breaks to see if I can get the flow / functionality back before starting PM again. I am however quite curious as it if there are permanent affects on your male parts once you stop for good or if it all comes back in time. 

I think I am open to supplementing PM with an additional herb or product if it will really help the development without having lasting affects on male functionality. I’ve read that complimenting it with saw pallmeto or fenugreek would help but also not be to damaging. 

Thoughts?

[Stevenator_]

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=24358

[Karen Hart]

Regarding lasting effects...

Don't take my word for it, do your own checking around but this is what I believe.

When talking about herbs, the lasting effects are any breast growth that you got. It may go down a bit but it may not.
I think that once the herbs clear your body, your male hormones start coming back and everything eventually gets to where it was before you started.
According to many reports, taking breaks does not make you start over from square one. Many people say that when they re-start, their growth is faster.

I think that it is NOT recommended to take any other phytoestrogens with PM, so maybe do not use Fenugreek with PM, but I may be wrong.
IMHO Fenugreek, Fennel and Red Clover are probably the safest yet very effective phytoestrogens. You can take any one of them or any combination of them safely.
They each have their own special character and it would not be crazy to take one cap of each, as a daily regimen.

BO is a Glandular, not an Herb. It is much different from herbs. It does not contain any estrogen. It changes your body chemistry and that change can be permanent. 
For your purposes... stay away from BO.

Karen