[Laura87]

Hello everyone i think another has similer problem.I wanted to figure out whatis the solution.I was urology,yesterday.And get bad news,my prostate is bigger and must be more go to toilet like usual.Please help!!!I take 1500 SP
3000 PM
25g Cink
I take sitill,1tspoon flexseed.

[Heaven's Night]

Do not take that much PM! You're risking blood clots by doing that. Drop to 1000-1500mg tops to stay safe. I have no idea if NBE stuff will help with prostate issues though. But megadosing PM wont be a good idea.

[Jessi]

Wow that's a lot of PM.  I'm afraid to even touch the stuff at all. 

The SP is supposed to help with prostate- supposed to keep T from being converted to DHT which helps with wayward prostates if I've done my homework right and that's why men take SP for benign enlargement.  That's my official (and justified) excuse for taking SP.  And if it just happens to help the girls to bud, well, that's a shame...

But Didi is right, you're taking too much PM, I have only scratched the surface of this website and I already know out of the herbals, PM (and licorice) are things you don't play fast and loose with.

[Laura87]

Ne vállalj annyi PM-et! Ezzel kockáztatja a vérrögképződést. Csökkentse 1000-1500 mg-ra, hogy biztonságban maradjon. Fogalmam sincs, hogy az NBE cuccok segítenek-e a prosztata problémákon. De a PM megadása nem lesz jó ötlet.

Thank you the fast,answer!The problem is that: 1500 PM dont give too much effect,becouse my testosterone level too high.I will begin white peony still soon.
But what are you recommand,beside 1500 mg PM,what should i use?Which estrogen?
I am in the beginning of the "NBE therapy".Dont see any changeing after too months,maybe my emotional feeling stronger.No any body effect.

[Heaven's Night]

More PM wont help you, first of all, its very slow acting stuff. Secondly, it is just like any other phytoestrogen, its extremely weak compared to actual bioidentical estrogen. Nothing quite compares to conventional HRT on efficiency. You can't expect PM to magically work by overdosing on it, you're only putting your life at risk.

You do not want to get a fatal blood clot to your brain for overdosing on PM. Don't be stubborn with it or you might end up regretting it badly or maybe it'll be too late for regrets. No phytoestrogen is very strong or fast at all. Two months is nothing yet, you've barely scratched the surface. People are on herbal NBE regimen for years and barely get any changes.

I suggest you either look into more elaborate NBE program, or consider conventional HRT. That can be done in moderation too so its slow acting as well, but still many times more potent than any herbal NBE.

And lastly, I suggest learning patience. Don't be stupid. Stupidity kills.

[fartsalot]

Hello everyone i think another has similer problem.I wanted to figure out whatis the solution.I was urology,yesterday.And get bad news,my prostate is bigger and must be more go to toilet like usual.Please help!!!I take 1500 SP
3000 PM
25g Cink
I take sitill,1tspoon flexseed.

Have you had your PSA checked from a simple blood draw !    Myself my psa was high and a biopsy proved I had cancer.   I had the gland cut out and that was all she wrote for me.       Friend of mine had high psa and  did not do anything and now he has cancers scattered about his body caused by prostate cancer.

[Laura87]

A több PM nem segít, először is a nagyon lassú fellépése. Másodszor, ugyanolyan, mint bármely más fitoösztrogén, rendkívül gyenge a tényleges bioazonos ösztrogénhez képest. A hatékonyság tekintetében semmi sem hasonlítható össze a hagyományos HRT-vel. Nem várhatod el, hogy a PM varázslatosan működjön, ha túladagolod, csak az életedet kockáztatod.

Nem akar halálos vérrögöt kapni az agyában a PM túladagolása miatt. Ne légy makacs vele, különben a végén nagyon megbánod, vagy talán már késő lesz megbánni. Egyetlen fitoösztrogén sem nagyon erős vagy gyors. Két hónap még semmi, alig kaptad a felszínt. Az emberek évek óta gyógynövényes NBE-kezelést kapnak, és alig változtatnak rajta.

Azt javaslom, hogy keressen egy bonyolultabb NBE programot, vagy fontolja meg a hagyományos HRT-t. Ezt mértékkel is meg lehet tenni, így lassú a hatása is, de még mindig sokszor erősebb, mint bármely gyógynövényes NBE.

És végül, azt javaslom, tanulj meg türelmet. Ne légy hülye. A hülyeség megöl.

Okay,i understood.However the doctor is check my prostate and its no bad temper,the enlargement.
But which NBE pills should i take?Its all right not use PM,but say what i take indtead of than?Which ones????What isnt couse trouble?Alternative solution???

[Heaven's Night]

PM is ok to use, but just not in crazy quantities. If you continue on it, keep dosage below 1500mg per day, maybe even at 1000mg or less. I don't know which would be a good alternative unless you're willing to go on some simple HRT program along with NBE supplements.

Quite a lot of people like the Bovine ovary route but that might not be suitable for everybody. And I have no idea if that would help with prostate issues. I know that the T blocker I'm on, cyproterone acetate might help as its actually a cancer medicine originally used to treat prostate cancer. But that alone would only nuke testosterone levels and being completely without a sex hormone dominance isn't a healthly place to be.

Anyway, I suggest you do reading on the forum. There's loads or information on everything here, especially Lotus's Prject X thread and some others, but that's a heavy and long read to dig in as there is just that much everything. Well worth the time spent in my opinion.

[CM213]

Saw palmetto is supposedly good for prostate health, granted I feel you'd have to use a much higher dose than recommended to see any difference. 

Prob would be best to talk to a doctor about prostate health, you could potentially get on prescription prostate meds which would also help you on your nbe journey as well.

[Laura87]

Erre kapok gyógyszert: Sulotampfen és Proxelan. 1000-re csökkentem a PM-et.

De mi a jó a trombózis és a rák ellen?

Ciproteron acetat?Need to doctor to write?