[Just_for_me]

In the past I used PM, I think I went too hard at it, but noticed my testicles felt as if they were almost shrinking to nothing. 

I've just recently started on an Prog oil 4mg per drop topical per the bottle, (6 drops per dose). Carrier is coconut oil mostly along with some vitamin e, I think. 

I also started using a PM breast cream (2 doses per day on chest covering both fatty and non fatty regions hoping to quicker absorption and some delayed absorption. 

I have been alternating application sites between chest and crotch areas for the prog.

On my 3rd day for the prog, 2nd week for the PM. 

I've stopped PM tablets once I started on the topical regime, was on 750mg tablet twice per day 1st week, but I only ever felt a little something one night I woke up at 12am (3-4 hours after taking my evening pill) and couldn't sleep due to manic type energy like I drank multiple energy drinks. 

Will probably stick to purely topical for the time being to see where it goes.

I haven't been massaging too much as in the past as I mistook swelling for developing...

Chest feels denser behind nipple, conical bud doesn't disappear when I lift arms over head like prior to starting back on PM. 

I did also get some red clover, but may have bought wrong style as the dropper says to put in water. I put it in an old Ainterol atomizer I had sitting around and it reminds me a lot of the old breast spray I used back in 2015. The scent is quite strong. And when mixed with the PM cream it absorbs nicely without staining.

[wee2er]

I've introduced a topical regime and there is a whole thread dedicated to it, so well worth researching.
From my time on topical I really like it so will continue it for reference my topical regime is 3xpumps of prog cream, 100ml of micronised DHEA, 20 drops of red clover and 40 drops of cayenne extract that has BO dissolved in it.
RC dissolves nicely in the mix.

[Brianna]

After Lotus' post and Lara's comments and posts I started a topical regime as well. Progesterone, DHEA, and DMSO. Before starting the topical I had small pointed A cups. After only a month of the topical regime I'm a solid B cup with fullness and no longer pointy breasts. Topical is a game changer for sure. I've contemplated things to possibly add to make it even better than current but I'm not sure what to add. 

I can't thank Lotus and Lara enough for sharing their knowledge and experience.

[Heaven's Night]

Thank you Brianna.  

The topical program has been a game changer, I'm currently testing what red clover extract does, it feels like its adding up, but its too early to say anything conclusive yet. I want to give it a month or two to show what it does. The science of it is sound and it seems like it'll play really well with the other ingredients involved.

DMSO is fantastic as absorbtion enhancer, I recently had a break from dermarolling but kept topicals going and I think I slowed down a bit and then sped up again when I got dermarolling back in.

DHEA and Progesterone are the key to making it work, but there's quite a lot that can be done to make it even better. I have to post to my thread in detail once RC proves itself.

[Just_for_me]

Those threads were the impetus for this trial. I really like the idea of using our largest organ to absorb instead of making the liver work harder than it already it. I am still tempted to try using my PM pills rectally, but I am going to let the topical play out for a bit. I did grab some DHEA as well, Amazon has just been slower than usual.

[Brianna]

Those threads were the impetus for this trial. I really like the idea of using our largest organ to absorb instead of making the liver work harder than it already it. I am still tempted to try using my PM pills rectally, but I am going to let the topical play out for a bit. I did grab some DHEA as well, Amazon has just been slower than usual.

Amazon has been horrible for us lately. There is currently a sale on Walmart Plus and we have found that you can order a ton of stuff from Walmart online. It's been cheaper or comparable price to Amazon and gets here faster.

[Brianna]

Thank you Brianna.  

The topical program has been a game changer, I'm currently testing what red clover extract does, it feels like its adding up, but its too early to say anything conclusive yet. I want to give it a month or two to show what it does. The science of it is sound and it seems like it'll play really well with the other ingredients involved.

DMSO is fantastic as absorbtion enhancer, I recently had a break from dermarolling but kept topicals going and I think I slowed down a bit and then sped up again when I got dermarolling back in.

DHEA and Progesterone are the key to making it work, but there's quite a lot that can be done to make it even better. I have to post to my thread in detail once RC proves itself.

I'm interested to hear how that works out as I have read your other posts about RC. I have wondered about adding PM into my topical as RC and PM seem to have fairly similar qualities. I know everyone says taking BO and PM at the same time is not a good idea but I don't know that ingesting vs topical targeted application would equate to being the same. 

Your thoughts and input are appreciated!

Brianna

[Just_for_me]

3rd week of Daily regime before bed only.
Ainterol Pm cream (pea size dab per breast) (only part on 3rd week)
Dhea cream (1 week so far) pea size dab per breast, 1 pea size dab on inner thighs alternating days
Progesterone drops 6x 4mg per drop (2nd week so far)

Started dermarolling every other day with the dhea application. 

I haven't gained (or lost) much weight <5lb difference in over a decade. Unfortunately, I can't just stop eating dinner like I used to, I most generally make dinner for family and it is hard to let the effort go to waste. I must have found an effective fasting regime by accident back in the day and was generally around 200lb as a result. 1st handful of marriage years, I slowly packed on weight until i plateaued around 265-270 (fat and happy, I suppose) and as the belly has grown (and I've drank a fair bit of IPA), I'm guessing the aromatase enzyme has helped the natural development prior to NBE resuming mid last month. 

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