[prostatenipple]

Hi
I see a fair few items on eBay for breast growth, feminine figure, aimed at trans etc.

And when I dig into the list of ingredients, I see a lot of them have mexican wild yam. (deja vu! - did I post about this before?)

I thought wild yam was used in the lab to build bioidentical progesterone cream.

Does this mean that progesterone cream is the thing that gives us a feminine figure like wider hips / smaller waist etc?

My own notes on this are a bit disorganized so I'm having trouble rationalizing if this is a good idea to buy. The products look good and I can see it's easy to get drawn into these - however not sure if it's garbage. I already have lots of PM, RR, Progesterone cream, and some peony root.

Like, you get a product for "feminisation", and it's only got Mexican Wild Yam as an active ingredient.
And you get another product, for "feminisation transformation" which is a liquid and only has soya isoflavones as active ingredient.
And another for "big bum and feminine hips" that has Dandelion root as active ingredient.
And another as a "feminine breast cream" that has Mexican Wild Yam again.
They are all aimed at the trans / mtf community judging by the packaging design.

Are they worth getting?
Is Dandelion root / wild yam worth adding to a PM regimen?

[prostatenipple]

Looking more into it.

For Dandelion, Google AI says:

Some studies indicate that dandelion extract can exhibit estrogenic activity, meaning it can mimic or influence the effects of estrogen in the body. 

Research suggests that dandelion extracts may affect reproductive hormones and their receptors, potentially impacting fertility and other reproductive health issues. One study found that a dandelion extract could upregulate the expression of estrogen receptors (ERalpha and ERbeta) and progesterone receptors (PR) in mice.

Lists these:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6048925/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26614455/

[prostatenipple]

Seems the case for Wild Yam is not as good.

Wild yam root contains diosgenin, a plant-based substance that acts as a phytoestrogen

While diosgenin can be chemically converted into hormones in a laboratory setting, there's no evidence that the human body can perform this conversion

There's ongoing debate about the effectiveness of wild yam for hormonal imbalances, with some studies showing no significant impact on hormone levels or menopausal symptoms like hot flashes

And from the notes I have:

[[Wild yam]] (Dioscoria villosa) increased progesterone receptor binding in 20-30% of women, but appeared to suppress progesterone. Researchers concluded that diosgenin, the yam compound used to synthesize progesterone, “did not convert to progesterone in the body.”

And that it's discarded by the liver and you can't use it for breast growth.

This is interesting. I knew about the USP progesterone being lab-made from wild yam, which is therefore active and the body can use it.
But the dandelion root is a new thing for me.

[Jessica736]

I use Mexican Wild Yam cream's for the normal skin conditioning found any moisturizer. I apply it to my breasts and I find it to be great to keep my skin soft. I don't think that it aids in my feminization in any way. This said, it can't hurt. It does have a reputation for being high in photo-estrogens.