[Kathryn051]

So the womens multiglandular mix (ovarian, uterus,  etc) is effective, but actually got more rapid results when taking this brand - Primal Being - Female Vit  (amazon - https://a.co/d/6PGC07w). 

Thoughts on why this is the case or just glandular vs. Supplement,  or the same thing in this case?

[Kathryn051]

Anyone else find RR/Reishi more or less effective when taking BO? have found it fluctuates but now that levels are so lo not sure if still necessary! thoughts?

[wee2er]

Red Reishi, when taken with EGCG are very effective AA's and combined are supposedly just as effective as pharma.
My Een injections have brought my T levels to the bottom end of female range, which has resulted in negligible DHT levels.
Therefore, I've dropped RR completely now, so just take EGCG for it's AA effects along with the other health benefits it has.

[Kathryn051]

Thank you!!

RR has definitely contributed. Interesting with EGCG. Will check it out!

Have blood work coming up next week at the 4 month mark since starting BO and combo items (primal (Ovarian, Uterine, and Fallop combo), RR, PG, and milke thistle). Took blood test before starting so hope the results will show dramatic change given the physical changes. 

Has anyone tracked the bloodwork post 4/6 month point of "no return"..?

Also has anyone noticed when taking BO that their ab muscles atrophy to the point of being almost useless? it is sooo different trying to get up quickly etc

[kcsab]

Makes sense. BO definitely operates similarly to HRT as most recent blood tests showed significant changes and reduction in overall T. 

Too bad there are no official studies. seems like most who do go the BO route switch to HRT or say it has crazy effects then followup data becomes scarce. So even looking for accurate similarities is hard to track  

BOs effectiveness is dramatic when paired with PG. Next level, Uterine Galndular, has created shocking altertion to what feels like my hip bones.  so far it has dramatically changed my gait and walking speed. Sny attempt to walk faster or longer strides feels insanely awkward and unnatural now. Suspect it will eventually normalize? Clothes do not fit properly, and best i can tell my hips keep widening. Friends and colleague have already commented that I look "different". 

Daily routine:

Morning
2 BO 
2 Multiglandular (BO+UTG)

Mid day
1 BO

Evening
2 BO
2 Multiglandular

Hi. Could you tell me which of the UTG you use? I would like to try it in combination with the BO.

[wee2er]

Fingers crossed your bloods show a decent change, but be wary it can take many months for hormone levels to change, that's why I do them 6-monthly.
As you don't take oestrogen, EGCG could be a great addition to the RR and has lots of other health benefits.
Personally, I don't believe the hype around 6-month point of no return, the only thing I'd say is no matter what regime you are on, you get to a point where your own mind says 'right this is what I want', to me that's the point of no return
Good luck with the bloods.

[Kathryn051]

Uterine was with Swansons Womens multiglandular. The other was Primal being - female vitality. 

Expect blood work back at some point this week/weekend!

I agree on the "6 month point"... doesn't seem realistic.  likely just the residual BO exiting the body as the hormanl reversal changes metabolism  

All that being said,  it is a form of a "lite" HRT, and BO is unpredictable.  Maybe there is some magical component not yet understood. 

Anyone have 6 month point of no return experiences?

[Sullaria007]

Katheryn, can you share more of your experiences with hip widening? That's what I'm most interested in.