(31-12-2011, 02:58 PM)sfem Wrote: I dunno. I suppose it would be specific to the individual, but I am thinking you are quite concerned about your appearance. So you should probably assume you will be unhappy with the results if you end up in the state where you have female breast tissue and little to no fat.
I don't know what you mean that I'm "concerned" with my appearance would be. I already have what look like small moobs (naturally; haven't started any NBE) and I'm kinda reserved with my clothing. Is that what you mean? Although I am becoming more and more confident.
(31-12-2011, 02:58 PM)sfem Wrote: As has been mentioned on the forum before, a number of people have reported general weight gain while on herbals such as fenugreek and PM. Read some history for more detail. Your actual growth and timing is hard to predict.There has been a wide range of results reported by people here.
Ok thank you. I just wanted to know if you meant people normally gained or lost weight.
(31-12-2011, 06:32 PM)chrishoney Wrote: waeg123,
Welcome to the forum. My first suggestion is spend a lot of time going through threads on the new forum as well as the archives of the forum in it's former incarnation. I would recommend even reading up on the other subsections such as herbal and glandular NBE even if you don't think you want to go that route, and look at threads that don't at first glance seem to apply to your situation. There is a wealth of information here, but you have to dig a bit to find it.
Thank you. Will do!
(31-12-2011, 06:32 PM)chrishoney Wrote: My second recommendation is proceed with caution. This stuff works (for many/most) for real, despite what you might read about wasting your money on herbs on more traditionally oriented transgender sites.
Yeah, I've seen some skepticism in places. Though the forums here have proved it to me!
(31-12-2011, 06:32 PM)chrishoney Wrote: I have what I consider relatively strong gender dysphoria, or Gender Identity Dysphoria (GID). What you describe in yourself sounds much like my GID. I have seen a number of therapists over the years, once specifically for my GID. My experience with therapy is that MOST haven't got a clue about what you are feeling and experiencing and aren't worth the air they breathe let alone the hundreds or thousands of dollars I spent finding that out. To date, their educational background/degree hasn't seemed to mean diddly as to how much help I have received. On the other hand the amount of help you receive is directly related to how honest you are willing to be with/about yourself and what you are feeling and how you communicate with your therapist.
Ok, well I don't really know what GID is. If it's just the vague catch-all term for the cross-gender feelings that some people have, then I guess, yes, I have that. Though with specific terms, I seem to be battling between crossdresser, androgynous, bigender, and two-spirit. I don't think I'm transsexual or transgender (though I don't really know how they are different. I want to keep my penis, is what I'm trying to say).
And with your experience with therapists, would you suggest I find a gender-specific one, find a psychologist/psychiatrist, or just be honest with a regular therapist?
(31-12-2011, 06:32 PM)chrishoney Wrote: The only two things that seemed to help me have been pueraria mirifica (PM) and estradiol. I would caution you not to expect "relatively fast growth" as NBE is a long term process--think in terms of years rather than weeks or even months. It can take 3 or 4 months just to get signs of real breast growth.
Estradiol sounds like a hormone. So is that part of HRT and/or something I'd need to get prescribed by someone? In retrospect, "relatively fast growth" was a bad choice of words. I just saw people who said they want everything to be slow, and I just wanted to say that I'm fine if goes faster.
(31-12-2011, 06:32 PM)chrishoney Wrote: As for breast shape, I suspect that wearing bras may help shape the breast. The down side is that almost all bras are made to accentuate the breasts and show them off. If you want to present as male, that becomes an issue, even with a-cup breasts. Also realize that there are as many different shaped breasts in GG's as you can imagine, so too in males that enlarge their breasts. Check out dargona's pic's for someone much closer to your age than folks like sfem, wishful or myself.
I might be able to live with wearing a bra then. Also, it's funny you should mention dargona. Out of all the pictures of growth I have seen here, dargona's is the closest to the growth that I want to mimic. That sort of growth would be great.
(31-12-2011, 06:32 PM)chrishoney Wrote: If you decide this is something you have to do for yourself, I hope/believe there are women out there for whom this will not be an impediment to entering into a relationship. In my opinion, I think this will change how people see you and will have an effect/impact on potential life partners. In all situations, whether you start on this journey or not, BE HONEST with your partner and tell them what is in your heart. I'm not suggesting this is the first thing you talk about, but if a relationship gets serious, talk about it sooner rather than later.
Thank you for all of your advice! And it might be a good thing, maybe. I wouldn't want to marry that person, and then find out they are not open to the type of person that I am.