[SarahSchilling]

I've been taking PM for a month using dargona's graph of E levels, but have read that progestorone doesn't appear in GGs until the breast is almost fully formed.

Was wondering if i should wait another month or two, or go ahead and take it. Was thinking about fennel tea and RC this week instead of PM.

Thanks

[JMT]

I'm curious about that too. I've been on PM about a month now too. Great stuff.

[Pansy-Mae]

Well, I've been on PM since October 2010, and although I confess to having applied a bit of cream now and then, I haven't seriously used it yet.

There are two definite schools of thought on progesterone, one of which says that progesterone is death to NBE. I don't honestly know, but although I would love the fullness it is supposed to produce, I'm terrified of losing what I've got, so I chicken out!

The logic for NOT using it is that it doesn't get produced naturally until breasts are approaching maturity, which is at least a couple of years from the start of breast development and there is no reason for us to suppose things would be different, indeed you might reasonably expect things to take longer for us - you can't enlarge ( fill out) what you haven't grown yet!

[julieTG]

Pansy

If you went on a 10 days cycle with Prog, I dont think you would lose anything at all

From what I have seen and heard the "jumpstart" is very quick indeed, some Girls can feel things next day,

Personally I think its exactly what you need too make that Bikini even tighter,

Julie

[Pansy-Mae]

From what I have seen and heard the "jumpstart" is very quick indeed, some Girls can feel things next day,

That's the trouble, I don't seem to be the same as others in practically everything and I have no idea why

I was growing quite nicely on PM for 6 months then more or less just stopped...they still hurt or are sensitive/tender, and if I change dose or add or subtract things I get a changed response for a day or two, which then subsides to the background pain level with no added growth. That's why I was going to switch to Isabelle's programme to see if a change is as good as a rest ( except I simply can't get the hops down me), she is adding an inch a month, but I'm getting no response at all. Maybe I'm just being impatient, because its only been a couple of weeks, or maybe I've just reached my maximum size, given my age and/or genetics.

Did your Microgest actually do anything other than tweak your nipples?

[julieTG]

The whole right hand breast jumped, and both ached like you would not believe,

Went away a sort of filling an A cup and came back a damn tight A cup with bra straps falling , they changed shape and held the Bra up themselves,

So something happened, very quickly as well,

Julie

[SarahSchilling]

I took some RC and drank some fennel tea yesterday, seemed to make the nipples more red, aside from that I'm not sure.

I'm going to post a pics in a progress thread I guess.

[bryony]

Well, I've been on PM since October 2010, and although I confess to having applied a bit of cream now and then, I haven't seriously used it yet.

There are two definite schools of thought on progesterone, one of which says that progesterone is death to NBE. I don't honestly know, but although I would love the fullness it is supposed to produce, I'm terrified of losing what I've got, so I chicken out!

The logic for NOT using it is that it doesn't get produced naturally until breasts are approaching maturity, which is at least a couple of years from the start of breast development and there is no reason for us to suppose things would be different, indeed you might reasonably expect things to take longer for us - you can't enlarge ( fill out) what you haven't grown yet!

I've been thinking about this, Pansy.

PM is supposed to help mature GGs to grow... that seemed to be the initial market... but won't they have gone through the progesterone phase? How can it be death to NBE if mature GGs can increase?

There are other sections here with such girls relating their performance, why not ask them?

Maybe if you simulate the maturity phase of PG, then stop it and go back to PM it might make a difference?

I suppose now that Julie has stopped it might be interesting to see if she continues to grow on PM alone.

On the other hand, maybe you should go through the whole puberty-adolescence simulation of 2-4 years? or however long it takes for PG to kick in.

B. (interested observer)

[julieTG]

My observations are based on the tgirls on the hard sites, some swear by it prog and some no difference , but when it works it works big.

10 days a month seems the usual

Another girl on this forum also uses it too big success with super sensitivity and growth even after stopping , she is a 38c now.

Julie

[Pansy-Mae]

PM is supposed to help mature GGs to grow... that seemed to be the initial market... but won't they have gone through the progesterone phase? How can it be death to NBE if mature GGs can increase?

Well, I don't know for sure, because I get brain-fade when I try to balance most of the technical/medical jargon, but I think it may have something to do with exactly how much of what is produced/taken and when in relation to each other. We happily talk about oestrogen and progesterone as though that's all there is involved, when in fact there are loads of different hormones and precursors and cross-pathways and they all have to work in harmony in a GG, otherwise they get all the PMS, and other complications that they never moan about. About 90% of that is missing with what we are doing, both the bad stuff and, I suspect, a lot of the good stuff.

Maybe if you simulate the maturity phase of PG, then stop it and go back to PM it might make a difference?

I was slightly incorrect with what I said at the beginning. I did in fact do one 10day programme of applied progesterone cream, starting just after a PM peak, to try to simulate a cycle, but I noticed absolutely nothing.

I suppose now that Julie has stopped it might be interesting to see if she continues to grow on PM alone.

I'm waiting for that info with eager anticipation, plus also whetehr she loses any of what she's gained, before she starts the next lot, plus whether she gets more growth on top from the next lot.

On the other hand, maybe you should go through the whole puberty-adolescence simulation of 2-4 years? or however long it takes for PG to kick in.

I more or less assumed that was what would be needed. When I started on this, Chrissie was some 15 months ahead of me and my timings, to budding, etc seem to be following what she was saying she had experienced, and I was happy with that. The last I heard she was saying she was bigger than C cup in about 3 years on PM alone, and still growing slowly although tapering off. Since I don't intend to get that big, a couple of years or so to get to a full B was quite acceptable and still would be really, but all the evidence I have is saying that I stopped growing 6 months ago after 6 months actual growth, and thats the blockage that I'm trying to get around now.