[julieTG]

Bryony got me all excited after this thread and I did the same this morning , a very serious female type orgasm , then a male one after.

There is no doubt this breast growth and sensitivity can make you have a female type sexuality, bring it on , bestvof both worlds.

Julie

[SarahSchilling]

Not only does this "work?", but it seemed to make my breasts jump a bit. I suppose it makes sense considering it'd get the blood flowing.

I'm bumping this thread as some sort of tribute to the nipple orgasm.

lol...the only drawback is that the equipment downstairs seems even more out of place to me than usual. If you call that a drawback...

[bryony]

Not only does this "work?", but it seemed to make my breasts jump a bit. I suppose it makes sense considering it'd get the blood flowing.

I'm bumping this thread as some sort of tribute to the nipple orgasm.

lol...the only drawback is that the equipment downstairs seems even more out of place to me than usual. If you call that a drawback...

No Pun intended?

as for 'out of place'... I don't know if you currently have a heterosexual relationship with a GG right now... if not, no problem, but it is possible to get hooked on these to the exclusion of the 'normal' kind.

Otherwise, if you do have such a relationship and don't want to jeopardise this, try treating the nipple orgasm as a nice 'extra', or as in my case, the option for when 'real' sex isn't practical for one reason or another. ( I definitely feel 'cleaner' than the usual alternative! ) Also, you might want to try using Butea Superba - it really is a kind of 'herbal viagra'; finally, I like to go 'cold turkey' for a day or two every month to clear my head a bit (a tried a whole week once and it was too, too depressing). Again, only relevant if you to maintain a physical relationship with a GG - otherwise, please ignore.

Or just ignore anyway!

B.

[SarahSchilling]

Yeah...I didn't have much of a sex drive before PM, and since starting on it, I'm pretty happy. Every girl I've dated said it was like being with another girl....and that was before PM. It'd take one special almost lesbian lady with infinite tolerance. (and she can't be butch..ugh)

She'll also have to be rich herself, or happy with being poor. I'm a real catch.

Not looking likely lol

Don't think I'll be adding a significant other anytime soon. It's kinda odd though, before masturbation was so mechanical....almost like a chore.

This is almost completely the opposite. I'm a fan ;p

And yeah, its definitely going to replace the other kind to some degree.

[bryony]

Yeah...I didn't have much of a sex drive before PM, and since starting on it, I'm pretty happy. Every girl I've dated said it was like being with another girl....and that was before PM. It'd take one special almost lesbian lady with infinite tolerance. (and she can't be butch..ugh)

She'll also have to be rich herself, or happy with being poor. I'm a real catch.

Not looking likely lol

Don't think I'll be adding a significant other anytime soon. It's kinda odd though, before masturbation was so mechanical....almost like a chore.

This is almost completely the opposite. I'm a fan ;p

And yeah, its definitely going to replace the other kind to some degree.

Well, at least you've found the real "you" before doing what many people of my generation did, which was to try to ignore it and carry on like a normal male, career wife, kids etc.... you have all the options open to you, including some kind of transition.

You never know, if you stay on PM long enough you may start to find guys attractive that could solve some problems.

B.

[SarahSchilling]

Yeah...I didn't have much of a sex drive before PM, and since starting on it, I'm pretty happy. Every girl I've dated said it was like being with another girl....and that was before PM. It'd take one special almost lesbian lady with infinite tolerance. (and she can't be butch..ugh)

She'll also have to be rich herself, or happy with being poor. I'm a real catch.

Not looking likely lol

Don't think I'll be adding a significant other anytime soon. It's kinda odd though, before masturbation was so mechanical....almost like a chore.

This is almost completely the opposite. I'm a fan ;p

And yeah, its definitely going to replace the other kind to some degree.

Well, at least you've found the real "you" before doing what many people of my generation did, which was to try to ignore it and carry on like a normal male, career wife, kids etc.... you have all the options open to you, including some kind of transition.

You never know, if you stay on PM long enough you may start to find guys attractive that could solve some problems.

B.

Hehe, thanks for the positivity....but I dislike guys in general.

Hell I don't even like my penis, it seems crazy to think I'd ever want another one around. Setting aside the fact that I dont have much of a desire to present as a female, at least not in public...

I guess anything's possible though. I'll keep an open mind.

Then again day before yesterday I skipped a dose of SP to see what, if anything, would happen. The next day my chest/belly was covered in very fine light hairs, and a few around the nipple were darker. First real consistent chest hair I've ever grown, at 32, was on PM lol

I broke down in tears and spent 3 hours with a tweezer ripping them all out. It was a feeling of disgust unlike any other I've ever had lol

I guess I have issues. If I could wake up as a GG tommorrow I'd do it, but realistically, I'm not sure I want to battle against my voice, facial hair, and the scrutiny of my friends/family.

I guess we'll see lol....sorry for rambling.

[bryony]

Hehe, thanks for the positivity....but I dislike guys in general.

Hell I don't even like my penis, it seems crazy to think I'd ever want another one around. Setting aside the fact that I dont have much of a desire to present as a female, at least not in public...

That's a tricky situation you've got there.

Then again day before yesterday I skipped a dose of SP to see what, if anything, would happen. The next day my chest/belly was covered in very fine light hairs, and a few around the nipple were darker. First real consistent chest hair I've ever grown, at 32, was on PM lol

I broke down in tears and spent 3 hours with a tweezer ripping them all out. It was a feeling of disgust unlike any other I've ever had lol

Hmmm. I would be surprised if skipping one dose of SP would have that effect. I have seen comment elsewhere that SP interferes with the action of PM. How much PM do you take?

I guess I have issues. If I could wake up as a GG tommorrow I'd do it, but realistically, I'm not sure I want to battle against my voice, facial hair, and the scrutiny of my friends/family.

I think having issues is part of being in this club!

My opinion is that you are a gender dysphoric, probably caused by depleted androgen in the womb (like me). It might be worth finding out if your mother was experiencing stress when pregnant.

If so, you may not be taking enough PM to enable you to cope.

I need 3g/day to sort my mind out. You could try gradually increasing your dose if you are on less than that ... at the right level, I don't particularly care about cross-dressing or the odd hair growing on my chest. The only other herbs that I take are Maca and Butea Superba.

Good luck,

B.

[SarahSchilling]

Hmmm. I would be surprised if skipping one dose of SP would have that effect. I have seen comment elsewhere that SP interferes with the action of PM. How much PM do you take?


I think having issues is part of being in this club!

My opinion is that you are a gender dysphoric, probably caused by depleted androgen in the womb (like me). It might be worth finding out if your mother was experiencing stress when pregnant.

If so, you may not be taking enough PM to enable you to cope.

I need 3g/day to sort my mind out. You could try gradually increasing your dose if you are on less than that ... at the right level, I don't particularly care about cross-dressing or the odd hair growing on my chest. The only other herbs that I take are Maca and Butea Superba.

Good luck,

B.

I take between 1/2g a day, anymore than that and I get severe headaches. I only weigh 130 lbs so I'm not sure I could handle 3.

About my mother being depressed...I don't think I need to ask. My dad was a pretty bad drunk back then before cleaning up. I don't see how she wouldn't be stressed out in that house. Probably a factor in my hatred of men, having such a shitty role model.

But to be honest, what first time mother isn't going to be stressed out?

I looked up to my mom growing up lol...anyways talk about getting off topic.

Sorry hehe

[bryony]

Hmmm. I would be surprised if skipping one dose of SP would have that effect. I have seen comment elsewhere that SP interferes with the action of PM. How much PM do you take?


I think having issues is part of being in this club!

My opinion is that you are a gender dysphoric, probably caused by depleted androgen in the womb (like me). It might be worth finding out if your mother was experiencing stress when pregnant.

If so, you may not be taking enough PM to enable you to cope.

I need 3g/day to sort my mind out. You could try gradually increasing your dose if you are on less than that ... at the right level, I don't particularly care about cross-dressing or the odd hair growing on my chest. The only other herbs that I take are Maca and Butea Superba.

Good luck,

B.

I take between 1/2g a day, anymore than that and I get severe headaches. I only weigh 130 lbs so I'm not sure I could handle 3.

About my mother being depressed...I don't think I need to ask. My dad was a pretty bad drunk back then before cleaning up. I don't see how she wouldn't be stressed out in that house. Probably a factor in my hatred of men, having such a shitty role model.

But to be honest, what first time mother isn't going to be stressed out?

I looked up to my mom growing up lol...anyways talk about getting off topic.

Sorry hehe

I think the theory is that the stress has to be severe enough to cause physiological problem. My mother had a mental breakdown due to both of my brothers having scarlet fever and my father (also a part-time drunk) having an affair and pretty much leaving her to it. (The fact that they weren't married either back in the 1950's when this mattered probably didn't help).

Re: the dosage... I'm only suggesting a gradual increase. 0.5g/day is unlikely to have much effect. (a), the female dose is 1g/day, and most of them are lighter than 130lbs (b) the headaches may be due to interactions with the other herbs you are taking (SP at least?) © the TG recommended dose is 2g/day, so you'd want to work up to that at least.

I think it is useful to see whether you have the proposed TS brain. I'd drop all the other stuff and take at least the full female dose for a while to see what happens. If the headaches don't go away, maybe you just can't use it - also worth knowing because at that dose, nothing much is likely to happen physiologically anyway.

Feel free to ignore!

B.

[SarahSchilling]

I dropped the SP for 2 days, and this time I broke out worse than I ever have, not on my face, but just on the chest and belly.

So I guess I need to keep taking that. As far as the 3gs a day, I don't really have the money to be taking that much right now, and even if I did, I'm not sure I want the amount of breast growth that would bring. So I've settled in on 2x500 for now, just enough to stay somewhat undepressed and grow them slowly.

Thanks for the advice, though.