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First off, since the term "HRT" was originally coined in reference to a process designed for women to replace hormone loss due to menopause or some other cause, perhaps we should create a new term that more accurately describes a program for males. NBE does fit, but also applies to women looking for body enhancement. HRT might fit if you look at it as MHRT, as in "male hormone rearrangement therapy"?? You could call use of synthetics SBE. Either way, natural or synthetic, you are trying to reprogram your bodily hormonal balance, which will ultimately result in consequences, both good and bad, large and small. Those all need to be factored in when you make the decision to begin your program (regimen) whether that be natural or synthetic.
From experience (not making any recommendations) synthetics will give you pretty much the same results most people here have gotten from herbals, only a good bit quicker. But, they also carry more possibilities for complications, as well as being somewhat more expensive. I guess you get what you pay for.
I have taken Premarin and an anti-androgen for a year and a half, and PM for the last 5 months. None have given side effects other than ED, which was expected. The ED is also not total, so it's doable.
Fortunately, either method you choose, should it produce any side effects, they will show up soon enough that you can choose to discontinue, or modify, and be OK. Speaking of modify, we could call it HMT, "hormone modification therapy"?? I'm probably just confusing the issue.
I have gotten breast, upper thigh, and butt growth, as well as filling out my legs somewhat. What did what? I would say mostly synthetics, but who's to say that the results wouldn't have been the same over a little longer time on herbs?? I won't call myself typical, and as great as Pansy Mae looks in a bikini, (Really nice!!), she probably won't label herself as a representative example as well.
Everybody here has got to take a hard look at what they are considering doing, and be responsible and sensible. There are so many variables, both in what you are doing to yourself, and what it is going to do to others. Be realistic, this is not a game!! If you go ahead, and it works, be prepared!!
If I sound a little fatalistic, forgive me. While I'm not an old-timer on this forum, by some of the questions I'm seeing here lately, I have some doubts as to the seriousness of some posters. Many of the things you are asking about have already been discussed at length, and are easily findable. Take some time and look. People here have put time and effort into providing information, so use it. And, if you are serious, accept that you must exercise some patience, do some research, and be realistic. Noone (male) is going to grow a set of breasts on 1000-1500 mg of PM a day!! Why kid yourself and frustrate the rest of those willing to help you?? Women have lots of (surprise!!) female hormones, so if their recommended dose is 1000mg a day, do you really believe you can get by on slightly more?? Some people here are taking 3000mg a day, and others (such as myself) may be taking more. If it doesn't give you headaches or some other side effect, ramp it up and embrace it. That is, if you're serious. Those of us who may not be able to handle PM have legitimate questions as to some other herbs, but most people here have coped just fine on PM, and it does work. IMO, piddling with minor herbs is wasting time. It may be cheaper, but I've seen more complaints about cheaper herbs like licorice and FG than PM, and let's face it, if you really want boobs, they won't do the job like PM, and $70-$80 for a 3 month supply of PM is a good deal. And that's for a 6000mg/day dose.
One last point for reinforcement, age is not a big bugaboo. It's been said numerous times, but, the fact is,estrogen will produce boobs at any age. I'll be 62 later this year, and the only thing I'm wondering about is, how much bigger will they get? But, that's another subject. PM works. If boobs are what you really want, give it your best shot. Please, just be honest with yourself that that's really your goal.
Well, I've had my rant. I should be good for a while. Thanks for listening, and I do apologize for going off-topic a bit.
... I am on the TS DIYhormones site and I've looked at the pics and although there are a few with beautiful breasts that I envy, I have said before and I'll say it again, I think mine, and others on here, compare favourably with many on there. I think the biggest differences are probably speed of growth, NBE is I'm sure, slower than synthetics, and the fact that they have many more members with many more pictures.