(continuing the heretical approach to managing the TS condition)

So, as some of you know, I'm now on PM at a fairly high dose for the foreseeable future to keep my mind balanced. As I consider my mind more important than my body, but also love my wife, my optimal solution will be, covertly (at least for as long as possible) to be a FF "shemale".

The problem with PM at high dosage is that, after a while, erections go away unless deliberately aroused, and neither partner is particularly bothered, the need for arousal goes away, and eventually, the need for a penis goes away.

I've found that going "cold turkey" is one option for restoring functionality. The disadvantage here is that a week away from PM for me is like having a bout of PMS. Not fun.

To this end, I have decided to try out the "other" Thai wonder herb, Butea Superba, which is supposed to be a "herbal viagra". Clinical trials show that it really does appear to work, though apparently without seriously affecting testosterone levels.
Clincal Trial report

I'm hoping that this, along with Maca (which in itself seems to help) may keep me "frisky" and hence mean that I do not need to come off PM once a month.

Search though I might, I cannot find any reference to anyone taking both PM and BS together, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

When all's said and done, these are 3 root vegetables eaten by natives for centuries (in Thailand and Peru), so I think the risk is low. So far, I feel better than I have in a long while.

(to be continued...)

B.

Bryony,

I have read your comments on this and can only thank you for all the information. I am new to the forum and am amazed at the depth of knowledge on here. I was on a herbal feminisation regime for five years during which time I developed to a B/C cup and a feminised bodyshape.

For family reasons I stopped and have been struggling for the last eight years and have now reached the point (well known to many TGs) that I cannot continue without an intake of feminising hormones, if for no other reason that it makes me calmer, less anxious and lifts the black moods!!This of course is quite seperate from filling out my much reduced breasts and being able to return to orgasiming through my sensitive nipples.

I already feel less anxious knowing I have made the decision to restart and be myself.

While on my herbal regime I was still able to function reasonably well, even though I experienced considerable shrinkage "down below". However in the last two years although able to function it is really quite arbitrary and I am hoping following your post that BS will restore function. Cold turkey seems to have made no difference. I propose starting BS and then adding PM after some two weeks in the hope that the BS will kick start functionality before breast developement restarts. I hope that as for you Bryony a FF shemale may be possible.

Anyway thanks again to you Bryony for your many posts and to all of the other members that make this forum such fascinating reading.

Emily

Hi Emily,

thanks for your kind remarks, and I'm glad I'm able to help.

I'm still FF after 7 months of PM, ave 3g /day. No desire to have any parts cut off or remodelled, and with the best mindset that I can remember having for, oh, my entire life! (59.5)

Good luck!

B.

Hi Emily,

thanks for your kind remarks, and I'm glad I'm able to help.

I'm still FF after 7 months of PM, ave 3g /day. No desire to have any parts cut off or remodelled, and with the best mindset that I can remember having for, oh, my entire life! (59.5)

Good luck!

B.

Bryony,

Thank you. Here is hoping, I was wondering whether Macca would also assist?

Emily

Hi,

Yes, I do take Maca & find it helps.

B.

Hi Bryony,

Thought you might be interested to know that I have been on Maca for two weeks now while waiting for BS to arrive. All on its own Maca is having an effect!

In relation to shrinkage, though I thought there was no gain in actual size, I was concious of a feeling that things were more "substantial" -less wasted. Then I caught myself in the mirror this morning and had to take a double take there was a definite sense of "more" though probably not measurable!!!! Also when aroused seems harder and longer lasting ( sorry too much information!!)

At the same time my breasts feel fuller, absolutely no actual change, but more alive so that I am really concious of them again .

Finally there is a great feeling of tingling down below and in my groin about an hour after taking the pills. I took 2000 mgs first ten days and 3000 mgs for the last two days. Can't wait for the BS to arrive and then add that for a week at 2000mgs before starting PM too. Really need to regain the calm and loss of anxiety I feel when I am on a feminising regime so maybe 3000mgs for PM as soon as they arrive.

Emily x

Really need to regain the calm and loss of anxiety I feel when I am on a feminising regime so maybe 3000mgs for PM as soon as they arrive.

Whatever else you do or don't take, do NOT go straight on to 3000mg PM per day.
Start at 1000mg, or even only 500mg per day, and work up by 500mg per day, a week at a time. Its almost guaranteed that your body will react very badly to being blitzed by that much ( 3000mg) 'alien' hormone without having time to acclimatize.

Many of us find that anything over 2000mg causes blinding headaches at least.

Hi Pansy,

Thank you for that advice, I will take it. I guess I was getting carried away at the thought of getting back on a regime again.

Emily

Hi Pansy,

Thank you for that advice, I will take it. I guess I was getting carried away at the thought of getting back on a regime again.

Emily

I'd agree that 3g/day is risky. I foolishly did that earlier than I should and got really bad kidney pains. I do take it now, but I eased into it, after the pain, in stages over a few weeks, finally ending up at one every 3 hours, rather than taking in 2x500g doses.

I'm actually down to 2g/day now - 2 in the morning, 2 before bed - some of my external anxiety sources have eased off for the time being, and I seem to be able to cope on that much.

It depends what you are using it for. If for NBE, 3g/day is something of a stalling dose. I need it during times of high anxiety.

Good luck,

B.

@bryony

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but are you still using BS?

1) Is BS safe to use with PM?
2) How much was your dosage per BS tablet, and how much per day did you have in total?
3) Did you feel any bad symptoms from the BS?

I ask because I only just got some BS in the post and the packet says take 2 per day, it's 250mg per tablet but is an extract (and doesn't say what concentration).