My dutasteride arrived today and I have took my first one, no sides or bad reaction so will continue. I am currently taking 3000mg PM per day. 1000mg morning 1000mg afternoon, and 1000mg be4 bed. Today adding DHT blocker dutasteride. I know my hair will grow better and body hair decrease. Has any other TS's taken this for a short time? Please let me know. If you are about Isabelle could you tell me what you think. Thanks. Kell
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11-06-2012, 06:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2012, 06:55 PM by Demon Lord Etna.)
11-06-2012, 07:17 PM
Hi Kell,
Journal your mood. PM ups dopamine. That feels like an immediate reward (20 minutes after ingestion). But dutasteride suppresses DHT very effectively. Since DHT, in men, builds the ability to cope with stress, you may feel totally defenseless. That will happen 5-6 hours after taking it: the time to metabolize the DHT you already had.
So don't take more dutasteride than you need. No longer than six months, because PM can handle your androgens by itself after six months. And at the moment: if you don't break out and have no oily skin, you're taking enough.
Lower the dutasteride dose or stop immediately if you feel vulnerable or weepy, or if your tendency to hole up becomes worse. You'll become suicidal if you let it go too far.
After 2-3 weeks, cutting off DHT will increase Luteinizing Hormone (LH). LH in turn will increase testosterone and estrogens. The testosterone increase is OK: without DHT, it only affects skeletal muscle growth. All other androgen effects receive the androgen signal via DHT as an intermediate. The estrogens increase is what will grow your breasts. But they will give you low libido, and a tendency to become depressed. Put a tick box for depression in your journal too.
Because you have much less progesterone than a GG, 3,000 mg PM may make you estrogen dominant. The most common symptoms are headaches or lower back pain. Lower the PM dose or have some fenugreek, wild yam, or fennel seed tea handy.
Neither PM nor dutasteride will affect your anxiety directly, unless, like bryony writes, your anxiety is caused by GID. In that case, PM should relieve it. If you take too much PM, you will start worrying about what you are doing to your body and where all this will end.
Journal your mood. PM ups dopamine. That feels like an immediate reward (20 minutes after ingestion). But dutasteride suppresses DHT very effectively. Since DHT, in men, builds the ability to cope with stress, you may feel totally defenseless. That will happen 5-6 hours after taking it: the time to metabolize the DHT you already had.
So don't take more dutasteride than you need. No longer than six months, because PM can handle your androgens by itself after six months. And at the moment: if you don't break out and have no oily skin, you're taking enough.
Lower the dutasteride dose or stop immediately if you feel vulnerable or weepy, or if your tendency to hole up becomes worse. You'll become suicidal if you let it go too far.
After 2-3 weeks, cutting off DHT will increase Luteinizing Hormone (LH). LH in turn will increase testosterone and estrogens. The testosterone increase is OK: without DHT, it only affects skeletal muscle growth. All other androgen effects receive the androgen signal via DHT as an intermediate. The estrogens increase is what will grow your breasts. But they will give you low libido, and a tendency to become depressed. Put a tick box for depression in your journal too.
Because you have much less progesterone than a GG, 3,000 mg PM may make you estrogen dominant. The most common symptoms are headaches or lower back pain. Lower the PM dose or have some fenugreek, wild yam, or fennel seed tea handy.
Neither PM nor dutasteride will affect your anxiety directly, unless, like bryony writes, your anxiety is caused by GID. In that case, PM should relieve it. If you take too much PM, you will start worrying about what you are doing to your body and where all this will end.
11-06-2012, 07:22 PM
Demon lord don't troll me. And don't take what I say out of context. I said that to tell people I'm not pushing anti androgens on anyone else. ???? Do you stalk everyone??
Don't twist the stuff I've said. You remind me of Carla who used to be on here. If you are Carla you never did bother me and you never will.
Get a life and if your going to reply to people don't be so rude.
Don't twist the stuff I've said. You remind me of Carla who used to be on here. If you are Carla you never did bother me and you never will.
Get a life and if your going to reply to people don't be so rude.
11-06-2012, 07:29 PM
Being rude wasn't the intention, and i dont know carla.
I'm sorry if thats what you thought i was doing. I just remembered something you'd said a couple days ago that conflicted with something you were saying here. I don't believe in "do as i say, not as i do". I don't even use that with my kids.
I'm sorry if thats what you thought i was doing. I just remembered something you'd said a couple days ago that conflicted with something you were saying here. I don't believe in "do as i say, not as i do". I don't even use that with my kids.
11-06-2012, 07:31 PM
Thanks Isabelle, what you said about lower back, I've had pain for quite a while now so that answers that. I will do a journal as my moods scale off quite a lot. One of my anti depressants reduces dopamine, but I don't take it cus it knocks me to sleep.
I appreciate your knowledge and your reply has give me some peace
Hugs x Kell
I appreciate your knowledge and your reply has give me some peace
Hugs x Kell
11-06-2012, 08:06 PM
(11-06-2012, 07:29 PM)Demon Lord Etna Wrote: Being rude wasn't the intention, and i dont know carla.
I'm sorry if thats what you thought i was doing. I just remembered something you'd said a couple days ago that conflicted with something you were saying here. I don't believe in "do as i say, not as i do". I don't even use that with my kids.
Ok, Sorry if I've give a mixed message. Your definitely not Carla! I've got loads of problems D, and when it comes to trying to explain stuff I'm not the brightest.
It's a great site to support one another, and share the different lives we have.
Kell
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