[troubled waters]

Short and sweet!
If i want big jugs do i have to use a Noogleberry or can good results be obtained just using PM and massage?

Thank you in advance

[MonikaT]

I think a search of the forum will find that breast size is a matter of genetics. If your mother, her sisters, and your sisters were/are large-breasted, you might become large-breasted, too. Age will also play a role as in you get greater results in your teens or 20s than you probably will if you start after 40. Noogling may or may not help. PM may or may not work. Massage may or may not do anything. Every single one of us is performing our own experiment, and the end result for some of us could end up being a smaller bank account and the same chest we started with. There is no way to know what will work or how well it will work for any individual. Noogling will make your breasts larger temporarily and might improve overall results or it might just be painful, result in terrible bruising, and lighten your wallet. Depending on the size of your close female relatives, you might be expecting too much, and the general rule of thumb is to expect about one cup size smaller than they are, but that varies.

[troubled waters]

So a bit like ' if yer mum can't have babies you can't either '.
But presumably your sisters or mum did not massage their breasts so who knows what size they would have been had they done, so if they would have reached a D cup with massage hopefully you could reach a C cup with massage.

[flamesabers]

I agree with MonikaT. I think it would be a fallacy to think all women with larger breasts got them because of a Noogleberry and massages, whether the reverse in regards to women with smaller breasts. If you want to pursue NBE, I think you'll have to be patient and self-experiment to find out what works for you and what doesn't. On the other hand, if you're looking to get a D cup bustline as soon as possible, I suggest getting a pair of D cup breast forms. It'll be a lot faster and probably be less expensive in the long run.

[Lots]

So a bit like ' if yer mum can't have babies you can't either '.

If your mum can't have babies, you can't exist!
Sorry, I couldn't stop myself from writing it.

But yeah, I highly doubt all women with a D cup or more used a Noogleberry to achieve their size. Of course it can help with growing/swelling, but from what I've read, it's not a requirement for most people.

[Holmes12]

MonikaT: ...the end result for some of us could end up being a smaller bank account and the same chest we started with.

I often worry if that is the way I'm going, developments can be really slow sometimes.

But yes, everything I have read has spoke about genetics.