27-07-2013, 07:13 AM
Hi all,
I thought I'd give back, at least a little, since I've benefited by the communications and experiences of others for many, many months...
Intro: MWM, office job; mixed gender issues most of my life, but episodic, not continuous.
I started NBE somewhat on a whim... My wife noticed that I had gained a little weight in the chest area while wearing a tight, somewhat fem top a couple of years ago (I dress, she's ok with it)... And something in my head went! So I started poking around.
I first found Natureday, and started using their products in November of 2011 for about 6 months. I saw some progress, but I recognize that now as initial fat redistribution.
I gained about 1/2 in around in the bust, lost about 1/2 in in the waist, and gained nearly 1 in at the hips during this period.
I stopped taking ND in advance of a minor surgery, and did not restart, partly due to discouragement, and partly the cost (you can go through that stuff fast!)
About a year ago, I started doing more looking... But taking a more scientific approach... It occurred to me that I was trying for gynecomastia, so I started there and eventually landed here. I jumped on the SP and FG bandwagon, because those are easy to come by, but wasn't any more impressed.
After reading many, many of the posts on this forum, I finally decided to give PM a try... Based on my readings (and the valuable info posted in this forum) I ordered the most I could in a single order of Ainterol PM (off eBay), which I started last December. I knew it would be some months to see any progress, and did not want to have to re-order soon.
I worked my way up to 3000 mg (capsules) per day, while also taking SP... Nothing happened... 12 weeks, still nothing. I then added some impulse buy breast supplements (red clover, FG, don quai), and suddenly got that budding feeling behind the nipple... Either the added herbs kick started things, or it was just time, but I've had slowly spreading buds, definite tissue build up, and additional fat redistribution since then, even on PM alone.
my current regimen is 3-4 grams of PM (capsules) per day (halfway thru my 2nd order), and 2480 mg of FG. I also take DHEA and Biotin (hair/nails). I don't have a planned cycle, but most weeks I vary the dosage a little day to day. By choice or circumstance I take a 5 to 7 day break every 6 to 8 weeks, but not enough times to spot a trend yet.
Observations:
Breasts - gained about 1.5 inches at the bust, budding is noticeable, and there has been recent expansion of foundation tissue below the breast and to the sides. This has added some lift that wasn't there even a few weeks ago.
Body - overall feminization... Waist has moved up and gotten smaller, hips are wider and lower, ass is bigger and rounder. All are somewhat subtle, but my clothes are not hanging the way they used too, and woman's pants and skirts fit me much better.
Skin & hair - body hair growth is slower, head hair is healthier and thicker, especially at the root. Skin is clearer, and really responds to moisturizers and other products. I think it also help the scarring from my recent hernia operation... It's nearly invisible after only a year. Nails grow a little faster.
Brain & sexuality - some initial changes (reduced desires), but no impacts to genitalia, or arousal ability... I think it's because I dropped the SP after the first 3 months. I still enjoy cross-dressing (more so now that the clothes fit!)
Negatives: so far, none... No headaches, nausea, excessive weight loss/gain, insomnia, etc... At least nothing that isn't warranted by other thing.
Future: I'm not sure... I had a mini-crisis about 6-weeks ago, and decided to suspend efforts for about a week... Back on, and getting a little happier about things every week... So who knows? I'm considering trying some other herbs to supplement the PM... Suggestions would be appreciated.
Anyway... That's me for now.
A big thank-you to the regular contributors of this forum... I really appreciate the information you've all shared here, scientific as well as emotional. It's been a big help to me, and my only regret is that this wasn't available 20 years ago!
Thanks!
Jami[/font]
I thought I'd give back, at least a little, since I've benefited by the communications and experiences of others for many, many months...
Intro: MWM, office job; mixed gender issues most of my life, but episodic, not continuous.
I started NBE somewhat on a whim... My wife noticed that I had gained a little weight in the chest area while wearing a tight, somewhat fem top a couple of years ago (I dress, she's ok with it)... And something in my head went
I first found Natureday, and started using their products in November of 2011 for about 6 months. I saw some progress, but I recognize that now as initial fat redistribution.
I gained about 1/2 in around in the bust, lost about 1/2 in in the waist, and gained nearly 1 in at the hips during this period.
I stopped taking ND in advance of a minor surgery, and did not restart, partly due to discouragement, and partly the cost (you can go through that stuff fast!)
About a year ago, I started doing more looking... But taking a more scientific approach... It occurred to me that I was trying for gynecomastia, so I started there and eventually landed here. I jumped on the SP and FG bandwagon, because those are easy to come by, but wasn't any more impressed.
After reading many, many of the posts on this forum, I finally decided to give PM a try... Based on my readings (and the valuable info posted in this forum) I ordered the most I could in a single order of Ainterol PM (off eBay), which I started last December. I knew it would be some months to see any progress, and did not want to have to re-order soon.
I worked my way up to 3000 mg (capsules) per day, while also taking SP... Nothing happened... 12 weeks, still nothing. I then added some impulse buy breast supplements (red clover, FG, don quai), and suddenly got that budding feeling behind the nipple... Either the added herbs kick started things, or it was just time, but I've had slowly spreading buds, definite tissue build up, and additional fat redistribution since then, even on PM alone.
my current regimen is 3-4 grams of PM (capsules) per day (halfway thru my 2nd order), and 2480 mg of FG. I also take DHEA and Biotin (hair/nails). I don't have a planned cycle, but most weeks I vary the dosage a little day to day. By choice or circumstance I take a 5 to 7 day break every 6 to 8 weeks, but not enough times to spot a trend yet.
Observations:
Breasts - gained about 1.5 inches at the bust, budding is noticeable, and there has been recent expansion of foundation tissue below the breast and to the sides. This has added some lift that wasn't there even a few weeks ago.
Body - overall feminization... Waist has moved up and gotten smaller, hips are wider and lower, ass is bigger and rounder. All are somewhat subtle, but my clothes are not hanging the way they used too, and woman's pants and skirts fit me much better.
Skin & hair - body hair growth is slower, head hair is healthier and thicker, especially at the root. Skin is clearer, and really responds to moisturizers and other products. I think it also help the scarring from my recent hernia operation... It's nearly invisible after only a year. Nails grow a little faster.
Brain & sexuality - some initial changes (reduced desires), but no impacts to genitalia, or arousal ability... I think it's because I dropped the SP after the first 3 months. I still enjoy cross-dressing (more so now that the clothes fit!)
Negatives: so far, none... No headaches, nausea, excessive weight loss/gain, insomnia, etc... At least nothing that isn't warranted by other thing.
Future: I'm not sure... I had a mini-crisis about 6-weeks ago, and decided to suspend efforts for about a week... Back on, and getting a little happier about things every week... So who knows? I'm considering trying some other herbs to supplement the PM... Suggestions would be appreciated.
Anyway... That's me for now.
A big thank-you to the regular contributors of this forum... I really appreciate the information you've all shared here, scientific as well as emotional. It's been a big help to me, and my only regret is that this wasn't available 20 years ago!
Thanks!
Jami[/font]
