08-09-2013, 11:20 PM
I posted this originally in timarie's thread but on further reflection felt it belongs here as well. After all I've put much else of my research findings on various subjects related to what I'm doing in this thread.
In addition to the above, the information I have found indicates that fiber needs scale based on caloric intake DIRECTLY, but can also vary between individuals. Putting a precise number on what you will NEED regarding fiber would be difficult, it's something you'd have to experiment on. A good rule of thumb though is to get at least 20-25 grams of fiber for every thousand calories. You'll know if you're getting enough and you'll know if you're getting too much. Our bodies are VERY good at telling us our fiber needs, lol.
Though, if you're meeting your vitamin needs through diet alone then you are DEFINITELY going to get enough fiber. Every single experimental modeling I've done has agreed on that point.
(04-09-2013, 12:32 PM)AbiDrew85 Wrote: Indeed. The ONLY optional nutrient is any carb other than fiber. YOU NEED some fat. YOU NEED lots of protein.
The problem with avoiding saturated fats is that it's often a very major fat in animal sources... And you need a small amount of animal fats. The GOOD omega 3's are only found in animal fat. ALA can be gotten from plant fat, but you only convert up to somewhere around 10% of that to EPA or DHA. And it's EPA and DHA that your body needs. So if your goal is to lose weight, you NEED animal fats. Otherwise you'll need to eat ridiculous amounts of plant fats to compensate for that horrible conversion rate.
But yes. You do want to avoid as much saturated fat as you can while still meeting your requirements for omega 6 and omega 3. Saturated fat serves no major purpose in our body besides a source of energy and raw materials to manufacture certain enzymes. If you get enough omega 3 and omega 6 from dietary sources you will get plenty of saturated.
Most of your fat intake should be omega 6 though, and those are found mainly in plants. So you should ALSO eat fatty plants...
Yes. Humans are OBLIGATE omnivores. Just like cats are obligate carnivores. Cats can't produce ANY of their required nutrients from lesser plant based sources, they have to eat already synthesized ones from another animal.
We were designed by nature to be omnivores. I know all the vegans are going to yell at me for that, but it's the reality. They aren't healthy being vegan. It's still their choice though...
Our bodies require a minimum of around 50 grams of protein and 10 grams of fat each day. Of that around a quarter of it needs to be animal source.
In addition to the above, the information I have found indicates that fiber needs scale based on caloric intake DIRECTLY, but can also vary between individuals. Putting a precise number on what you will NEED regarding fiber would be difficult, it's something you'd have to experiment on. A good rule of thumb though is to get at least 20-25 grams of fiber for every thousand calories. You'll know if you're getting enough and you'll know if you're getting too much. Our bodies are VERY good at telling us our fiber needs, lol.
Though, if you're meeting your vitamin needs through diet alone then you are DEFINITELY going to get enough fiber. Every single experimental modeling I've done has agreed on that point.