[julieTG]

Trying to get an overview here,

Many of us have mentioned that growing breasts has decreased dressing desire,

Has the constant reminder of having them though increased or settled your thoughts (if any to be a woman)

Mine are at jump stage now and I am wondering if I am playing with fire, but today I think there very cute and want to keep them and grow larger,

What I do not want to do is jump the fence ie if they got larger will I get hooked ?

As i see it with myself ,

Today they are turning into without doubt a female look as areola and nipples have darkened and grown this week and gone pointy

Check to myself, nice

Is it scary, uh a little

Do I like them, yes

Would I miss them , yes

Do I want them larger , oh absolutely provided wife is still good with them,

But I can honestly say if they doubled in size which I think in a few months is a very distinct possibility , would I hook myself and end up like a Bryony, cheryll, smallfry, ????

Treading cautiously now , paddling water and gauging reactions to myself and others,

Spearmint has def helped in calmness and started taking sex drive out a little, but now growth is so much faster,

Julie

[Holmes12]

Hello Julie,

Can I just say I do enjoy reading your posts, they are topical and very regular.

Anyhow, I would say the desire in me has declined, I am happy to be developing the breast, and no longer worry about how long it takes, the fact that there are signs of growth is enough for me.

When I was a child and teenager I wanted transition, but I also wanted to do the things boys do without restriction. I played rugby and moved to gridiron (American Football) and did not wish to give these up, although age and injury has now forced this upon me.

I want to remain a male, but a male who recognisably has breast. Being of the tubby persuasion, they are not difficult to hide in plain site if you know what I mean. Overall however I wish to be a father to my daughter, not another mother. I think that I owe that to her.

[Jessica Leigh]

Hello JulieTG,

Over the winter (2012-13) I was taking very small doses of PM (<500mg) and larger amounts of SP (>1600mg) which according to everyone here is too little PM to cause any changes or effect mood. I feel like i was experciening the benefits however. I did experienced tenderness of my nipples, a lightening of the skin around them too. But most notably my desire to transition, which was at a fever pitch at the time faded away. And when I say fever pitch I actually brought the subject up with my wife. As time went I stopped taking my herbs because as Holmes said he would rather be a father to his girl, I do too with my children. And my desires retreated to the depths of my mind.

Funny thing is a year later I myself coming back to these pages looking for answers. One thing I do notice is that my desire to grow breast, wear feminine clothing, paint may toes, all seem to coincide with less daylight. So maybe it is also a seasonal thing (for me anyways).

My job really puts me at a disadvantage. I'm a personal trainer, so while I can shave my arms, legs, and chest - all in plain sight to others. I really can't grow breast because... Well, men see me to lose their moobs, not on advice to grow them.

[julieTG]

Holmes , perfect answer , thank you, hope for me then yet

Golus,
Yes I too find it a light linked thing , ie winter triggers

Also it's about balancing , many people in the trans world have been balanced by the introduction of estrogen either synths or herbal

As said in other threads we need t bringing down or balancing with e , or some of us can go off the deep end

It's very common now for males to have estrogen prescribed in low doses so they can carry on being a male

Julie

[Miranda-nata-est]

For me there is no trans mode in sight and this is how I hope it will stay.

I guess though, we are on a path to an unknown destination. As such, it is impossible to say with absolute certainty where I will be in say a year, two... ten years down the line.

The intention is to remain as now - but who can tell!!

David

[Robindee36]

I'm a newbie, MtF girl (sometimes) so greetings to all.

Living a dual life precludes the possibility of transitioning or living FT. However, having gynecomastia makes it a bit easier to add some volume without garnering any additional attention. Heck, I have not gone shirtless at the pool for decades.

No, there is no desire to transition, only to add some femininity. Yes there is a highly sought objective of more cleavage, but it ends there, for now

Hugs all, Robin

[Lenneth]

Very mild increase, but similar to others, Circumstances in my life (Relatives Mostly) block even trying that path.

[JustEmily]

Not really increased, but it has helped with perspective. The sex of my body is not as important as the gender of my mind, and I have found peace with this since I have started the PM.

Plus, I promised to stay male when I said "I do."
In my mind, that unbreakable contract trumps anything else.
She knew she was marrying a female brained man when she got into this, I was sure to make full disclosure.

If anything, the PM turns the volume on those desires way down, and the body changes are nice and mostly harmless. This is also why BO scares the willies out of me. I wonder what kinds of neurological changes are happening... If only I could get some of you BO people into a SPECT scanner to examine your brains.

What a great idea for a Doctoral Thesis! Volunteers anyone?

[PattiJT]

JustEmily,

Assuming you know how to operate one, and assuming I wouldn't glow in the dark for too long, it is an interesting proposition. However, in order to have one done, don't we also have to assume that the main reason for doing so would be that someone has a brain abnormality that we would be looking to confirm? While I do agree that we here are somewhat different from the general population as a whole, are we abnormal?
Since a SPECT-CT scan is to check the "function" of the brain, rather than the structure, I'm not sure it would do much for us BO users, as BO, (if it does work, remains to be seen), is supposed to cause the eventual continuous aromatization of T into E by the male body, allowing the body to make it's own E without outside sources. I would think that this process, if it does indeed take place, would happen somewhere else in the body other than the brain. I can't say, even remotely, that BO has altered my mental processes one way or the other as far as feminine feelings or urges are concerned.
That said, I'd happily volunteer, just for the experience. Who knows, might find out I'm prone to getting dementia later in life. Then I'd have a chance to attempt early intervention. Actually, I would think your better candidates for this testing would be the PM users here, as every one of them has expressed mental effects caused by PM. So, it could be a chance to scientifically prove that.
Count me in, but no way am I travelling across the country for it. I can be a guinea pig right here. Have fun! Patti

[JustEmily]

What I'd be looking for is structural changes and blood flow alterations.

The Amen clinic has made groundbreaking work. Working on PhD once I figure out the final pieces of the financial puzzle (a good psych degree can cost as much as a house!), and Gender issues have a special place in my heart, as you may have guessed.

This is the kind of thing I mean BTW:
SPECT scanner info