looks like i need to grow at least another inch....
June 4 2007 at 2:57 PM
stefanie (Login stefanie_ss)
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looks like i need to grow at least another inch before i can buy a bra. according to a breast size calculator, i am a 38A. or am i wrong?
my band is 86.36cm = 34"
bust is 93.98cm = 37"
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 3:09 PM
I don't think you need to grow another inche to buy a 38A cup bra. I think another inche would make you a B cup.
Blu-Jay
Blu-Jay
(no login) P.S June 4 2007, 3:18 PM
Be carefull using those bra size calculators,They were made for Bio. women! Us guys develope differently than they do. So in most cases they don't work well for us bio.males.
Blu-Jay
stefanie
(Login stefanie_ss) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 3:23 PM
thanks blue-jay. just so damn confusing. no wonder most women don't wear bras that fit.
maybe i should just go gat fitted
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Bra Sizes For Men June 4 2007, 3:46 PM
We had talked about this a while back in another thread and Fennel Fairy Found this:
http://www.breast-enlargement-men.com/brasizesformen.html
Another one is: http://crossdresser2.blogspot.com/
This one has some tips from a cross dresser that help.
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Fennel
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 5:30 PM
In general, bra charts seldom work for biological males and the equivalent thereof. The male body has larger pectoral muscles and a more triangular upper body which means a wider "upper rib cage" measurement even without breasts. I saw some dude on the Bountiful Breast site's testimonial page who measured 40B or something but he wouldn't be able to fill even an A-cup in terms of "cup filling material". This is why bra charts doesn't work in some cases, but not ALL cases. It depends on how feminine/masculine the upper body is built.
Stephanie, you look like you'd fit into an A-cup. I say get a bra in that size and try if it fits you.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 6:12 PM
It also depends on where the charts are from.
The chart that I tried had U.S sizes and U.K sizes . Using the same measurements,the same chart, I ended up with two different sizes. in the US I'm an A Cup, in the UK I'm a B cup and both of these sizes had the same band measurements. Go Figure!
Blu-Jay
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stefanie
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 7:15 PM
thanks FF and BJ. trouble is, on most sites that i have been to, 38 bras start at b cups
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 7:33 PM
Yes, the measurement calculators online don't work for me either.
I have a significant amount of titty fat on my sides, like in the underarm area.
That causes a larger measurement and throws the calculators off.
In Biochix most of their breast is up front with a *little* on the sides/underarm area.
Not always the case with DIYchix, at least not in my case.
IF that side flesh was up front, I would have some nice plump, round B's.
Actually, I would guess I'm really just barely an A.
My whole upper body is thickening up though, I have a pretty good spare tire but I've noticed that
my pants are much looser now while my thighs and legs are getting more plump and fleshy like BioChix.
What's happening is that the fat that I already have, in the wrong place, is being redistributed into the right places.
Mostly. I don't know why it's putting so much under my arms though.
It IS changing the general appearance and shape of my body though, like my upper body used to be shaped more like
/ / . . \ \ that but now it's becoming more like / /\ . . /\ \
Sorry for the crude graphics I hope you can see what I mean there.
Anyway, I can see that this is going to take a long time. There's an entire body that pretty much has to be rebuilt here,
it's all in the wrong shape. The reconstruction of Rome is underway..
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stefanie
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 7:46 PM
you are too funny, moon....lol.
i'm just a little gurl though, not too much fat to move around.
i measure, 37/30/36.
thinking about getting a waist cincher
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 10:11 PM
I used to have a 29" waist and there wasn't an ounce of fat on my body, back 20 years ago when I weighed 135lbs.
But I have a broken spine that's full of titanium rods and bolts now, arthritis, scoliosis and all sorts of other miseries.
Last year I got up to 215lbs and a 42" waist. Now I'm about 210 but my waist has gone down to 38".. So the weight is still there but it's moved to new locations. The past 10 years have been very unkind to my body and because of extreme pain and lack of mobility, I put on about 70lbs. I need badly to lose it. I'm not an obese waddling tub of pig lard but I'm not svelte and trim like I used to be, back when I could half-ass pass.
However, having this extra body fat may provide me with a slight advantage, as typically, females have more body fat than males and that's what my body needs to feminize itself. So those spare pounds may (hopefully) shift to the right places and round me out properly and give me a softer, more feminine appearance. It's never going to be perfect because of all the years of testosterone damage that have been done but I think that *maybe* I may be able to do ok in the body dept. I'm going to work to loose some weight but I don't want to loose all of it because it helps hide some of the clunky frame underneath and smooth out some of the otherwise sharp angles.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 4 2007, 10:29 PM
Yes, when most of us guys get fatter with age
we become more apple shaped, Females have more of a pear shape to them. Most of the time when they age thier bottoms & hips get larger and their top halves remain small.
Blu-Jay
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 5 2007, 6:48 PM
One common complaint I have seen is that TG/TS girls don't usually do well in the hip department.
For some reason that I haven't yet uncovered, our hips just don't seem to widen out to female proportions very well.
That's why "pumping" is so popular. It's also extremely dangerous. I won't be going there! I have enough problems as it is.
But, outside of the hips, the rest of our bodies can, with a little luck achieve some pretty decent results.
Boobs seem to be the easiest body part to enhance, from what I've read.
We shall see. In my case it's way too early to tell yet.. I've still got a long way to go.
I'm going to start a new program. "Peddling for P***y" (mine) ..
I have a bike and I can ride it. It's not easy but I can do it.
So each day I'm going to peddle some pounds away and during my ride I'm going to
stop at the store and buy a lottery ticket for $1. I may get lucky and win.
I may not. Probably won't. But if you don't play, you can NOT win.
So if I do win, I'm going to set aside the money to do everything and start on it.
First up, laser. Second, fix the hairline in front. Then, FFS.. And so on..
If I really win a big lottery pot, I leave this country and start a new life. I want to live in the country or the woods away from people and I would prefer to do it in another country. But, that's just me dreaming. I don't expect I'll ever win, the only people that ever win are scumbags that burn up all their winnings in bars and on drugs then 2 years later they are on the street destitute and whining.. Not me though.. I have a goal and I KNOW what I would do if I won..
So, I'll just keep "Peddling for P***y" (mine)..... ;-)
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Fennel
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 5 2007, 7:34 PM
The male pelvic bone is narrow and the female is wide. I was at an archeological dig once and there was a school class there looking. There was some comparing of skeletons there and info on the difference between a male and a female skeleton. One of the archeologists asked the kids if anyone knew why the females have a wider pelvis. A little boy said "It's so it's easier for her to carry all the groceries" :-)
Anyway, I wish you luck with the lottery Moonstruck.
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 5 2007, 8:57 PM
Ahahhhahaha!!
Yes, I remember that well. Back in the day, before these damn plastic bags (aka ghetto flowers),
you used to get your groceries in a brown PAPER bag. And I have vivid memories of women with a bag of groceries propped on the hip while she wrestles with keys and kids with her free arm, hair askew and all flustered...
Yes, I remember that well.. I always was envious of them. I would have been more than happy to trade places with them even in their moments of distress.. Oh that brings back some memories from long ago..
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Blu-Jay
(Login Blu-Jay) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 5 2007, 10:18 PM
O.K What is pumping?
A while ago I read a fitness article that was all about body sculpting and how to improve the appearance of certain areas. There, people could write in and ask questions. It just so happens someone asked about making their hips and butt bigger because they didn't like how small they were. I asume, that this person could have been a TG girl because everyone else wanted know how to make their hips and asses smaller. Well, the exercise was called "squats". The way it is done is, one has to stand with feet shoulder width apart,put a weight on their shoulders and start doing sort of a deep knee bend motion.At gyms they have machines that simulate the squat.those machines isolate that area more and make the exercise a little easier. It works by building the muscles there. It won't change the bone structure but make the hips and ass appear larger.
Blu-Jay
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 5 2007, 11:03 PM
"Pumping" is where a bunch of TG's have a "Pump Party" in someone's apartment and they inject industrial silicon into various parts of their bodies to try to get the figure they want. It's totally illegal and very dangerous. A lot of girls have DIED from doing this.
And even if it doesn't kill you on the spot, you've got silicon free in your body, that's a BAD thing..
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 6 2007, 7:19 AM
Oh my God!That's awfull! Do they have any idea what they are doing to themselves. That is some bad stuff. I used to work with that stuff alot and You should read the warning labels on it. I used it to repair my leaky fish tank once,needless to say what happened to my fish!
Anyways, there has to be other methodes that can be used safely.
Blu-Jay
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 6 2007, 8:47 AM
I have several tubes of fuser oil laying around here. It's pure silicon oil, I would guess it's about 140w as far as oil goes.
It's much thicker than honey. And it's STICKEY.. And impossible to wash off your hands. You just have to let it wear off which takes about 2 days. It's nasty stuff. I have a massive industrial copier and an equally monstrous laser printer that I service myself so I buy the stuff online. It's dirt cheap. I would suspect this is the same stuff they are using.
OMFG... I can't imagine injecting this stuff into your body. That's just begging for some freakish weird things to happen to you.
Uh uh, no way..
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Snowflake
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EVE MEMBERS Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 6 2007, 1:46 PM
Hey StefSS, posted over here, wanted to make sure you caught this message. Anyway, not sure if you have tried this but, use a heating pad whenever you can, 20 minutes at a time, after massages. Heat raises the hormone prolactin, which helps place fat and growth in the breast area. Also another good testerone blocker is pumpkin seed oil, which may also give you extra oil to make fat in the breasts. And watch for a men's postrate formulated supplement, which contains Sp, stinging nettle, pyguem and pumpkin seed oil. Anything that a man would take to stop the inflammation of the postrate gland would be good as a testerone blocker. Sorry if this is repeated info for you. Take Care!
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Silicon June 6 2007, 3:01 PM
The silicon I used, is also an industrial silicon made by DOW CHEM.It is used as a sealant and has a very strong vinegar smell to it. When it dried,it was like a soft rubber like compound.It also is bitch to get off of your hands. I don't know if this is the stuff that they use, but it's crazy if they do. I know there are some non acidic silicon sealents available that can be used in the food industry. Maybe! that's what they use! Not that it's any safer to use for that purpose. Here is some trivial info. Dow Chemicals were the ones that made the first silicon breast implants and I think they still do. :-/
Blu-Jay
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moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: looks like i need to grow at least another inch.... June 6 2007, 9:37 PM
I've read that it's the silicon oil they use but I may be wrong.
It's very thick stuff but it does not ever evaporate, dry out or harden in anyway. I've heard the term "Silicone is forever".. Well, that would be a good description of this stuff. I know you can warm the stuff up and it gets thinner then gets very thick when it cools down. I've had to use large syringes to inject the stuff into the works of laser printers and copiers. You have to get the stuff up to around 100f to do it or it just won't flow through the syringe, period. Inside the copier it's heated up to around 400f and it gets thin like water.
It's very similar to the silicone fluid they used in breast implants. I've seen the real stuff and they look and act the same. The call this stuff I have "fuser oil" because it's used as a lubricant in the fusing process of copiers and laser printers. It's not really "oil" as in motor oil but shares many of the same properties.
It's nasty stuff. I can imagine that if you were to inject it into the body, it would just sit there, being too thick to ooze around much, and the molecules too large to pass through tissue. From what I've read on it, the body simply doesn't know what to do with it, it can't understand the chemical composition of it, it's TOO alien to the body. After some time, the body finally decides that the stuff is BAD and tries to reject it but nothing in your system can take the silicone molecules apart and pass them out of your body the way stuff normally would go.
I've seen many news reports of women having horrible health problems from their legit silicone implants. Still, they preferred the silicone because it felt more natural than saline implants (salt water).
I haven't done this but I can well imagine, fill a baggie with salt water and fill another with silicone fusing "oil" then play squeeze the titty with them and I assure you which one you would pick as feeling closer to how a tit feels when squeezed.
I saw a documentary on TV the other day about some girl getting implants, the doctor was very sensitive about making sure that the natural look was preserved, she didn't want to look like a phony hooker, IE Pamela Anderson, she just wanted to get back a little of her youthful look that she lost because of feeding a few kids when she was young. They offered her two options, one was a reduction that would have left a lot of very nasty scars, the other was augmentation that would leave a small scar underneath that would rarely be seen by anyone and would likely fade away really nicely. She took option two.
And the results were really pretty good. She was very happy and felt a lot better about herself afterwards.
Thing is, the doc has to know his stuff and you have to know that the have implants that are various shapes and sizes that can gently enhance what you naturally have. Sadly though, a lot of girls go for the extreme and over do it and end up with obviously phony looking tits. I think it's horrible.
I much prefer a woman with natural breasts. And I actually prefer women with smaller breasts, I just sort of like that look, much nicer than big old floppy knee knockers that look like hell when they get older. Smaller tits stay nice and youthful looking all through life. I do like looking at bit tits, and I sometimes fantasize about having a pair of whoppers myself, but just for fun. I really wouldn't want huge tits even if I could have them. But they do make for nice eye candy. But, big tits just aren't my cup of tea.
If you like big tits, there's a movie you should see, "Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!" by Russ Meyer. Go to mininova.org and enter that in their search and download it via bittorrent. You'll get to feast you eyes on some BAD girls with BIG tits..
anon man
(no login) Looking for a 38A? June 8 2007, 2:34 AM
Try the Gilligan O'Malley line at Target. It is not bad for the price and they come in 40A too.They also have many styles and colors; not just the "ugly" one style and color. Comfort is good too, and the strap adjustments are in the front on some of the models. But there are several 38A's out there. Also Playtex makes some but they are all soft cup. The Gilligan ones are underwire. Good luck in your search and keep us posted!