[not-moobs]

Thought it was time I said hello - I`ve been lurking away here for a while now - I`m one of these weird males that want to grow real boobs - not floppy manboobs which are mostly fat, and make your nipples look down at your feet.

Real boobs !

I`m not TS, have no interest in womans clothing, or living as a woman. Must be TG or Androgyne

I`ve been trying to grow boobs now for years, with little success until the last few months.

Tried PM long time ago - nothing

Tried various mixtures of Fenugreek, Fennel, Red Clover, Saw Palmetto, Hops, beer, etc - nothing

But over the last few months, things are definitely happening, to the extent that I`m having to think about how far I want to go.

I`ve been regularily been taking one Saw Palmetto capsule, one Fennel tea, some Fenugreek tea each day.

Now these were all things I had been taking before, yet something has changed - so looking back over some of the changes I`ve made to my diet over the last few months - I`ve added to my diet - chicken, grapefruit juice, mustard, unrefined oil containing omega 3 and omega 6.

So maybe one or more of these has acted as a catalyst. Anyway - I love the result.

One small niggle is that I`ve also been more physically active, so I hope It`s not just my pecs that have grown !

[EricaB]

Welcome out from lurking, not-moobs. Apparently NBE works differently for everyone. Just keep up whatever seems to work. You might consider a Noogleberry pump to suction bigger boobs. I love mine, and love the feeling of taking my hands and cupping my minuscule teeny tiny whatever they ares.

I've been noogling past 4 or 5 years usually incorrectly, a few months at first then a 4 year break resuming 2 or 3 weeks ago. I've also been using modified hypnosis (I listen to mp3s while sleeping which people in here say is a no no), subliminals, and infrequent massage. No idea what helped and what didn't. Started PM 4 days ago, so it could not have been that.

If you find something that works, please share it. Others might give it a shot and find that it works for them too.

[bryony]

Hi,
you say that PM didn't work; I find this strange.

Can you provide details? Brand, dosage, duration? These
are all critical factors.

Bryony

[Andy]

Sounds like taking small amounts over time may have begun to pay off. Grapefruit juice has been known to cause a retention of estrogen in the body.

[not-moobs]

Hi

Thank you for your welcome, and for the various interests in my post. I have actually been thinking about getting a Noogleberry, because from various posts, it seems to make your nipples and aerolas bigger. Which I fancy. Been pumping my nips for quite a long time with home made snake bite thingies, and they stick out nicely now. A bit more would be a bonus.

I am afraid I can`t remember the make of PM I used, it was several years ago. The dosage was whatever it said on the container - possibly 4 capsules a day ? I took them for 4 or 5 months.

Another herb that I tried for quite a long time was Soy - again, it did nothing for my boobs. However I increasingly found stuff hidden away on the internet about the dangers of Soy. Soy is a huge industry, and there are a lot of web sites proclaiming its benefits. However if you dig deep, you`ll find a lot of quite convincing arguments that Soy is actually poisonous, that it will shrink your testicles, and that it wasn`t used as a staple food in the far east - it is claimed that this is a myth created by the Soy industry. I don`t know what is correct and what isn`t, but nowadays I avoid it. Which is quite difficult, it is in loads of different kinds of foods.

Interesting comment about the grapefruit juice - it seems to be one of these foods that no-one can actually prove helps your boobs to grow, but no-one can quite prove it doesn`t. So for now, I `ll just keep drinking it. At this point I prefer grapefruit juice over orange juice anyway, so it is certainly not a hardship.

[bryony]

Hi

Thank you for your welcome, and for the various interests in my post. I have actually been thinking about getting a Noogleberry, because from various posts, it seems to make your nipples and aerolas bigger. Which I fancy. Been pumping my nips for quite a long time with home made snake bite thingies, and they stick out nicely now. A bit more would be a bonus.

I am afraid I can`t remember the make of PM I used, it was several years ago. The dosage was whatever it said on the container - possibly 4 capsules a day ? I took them for 4 or 5 months.

Another herb that I tried for quite a long time was Soy - again, it did nothing for my boobs. However I increasingly found stuff hidden away on the internet about the dangers of Soy. Soy is a huge industry, and there are a lot of web sites proclaiming its benefits. However if you dig deep, you`ll find a lot of quite convincing arguments that Soy is actually poisonous, that it will shrink your testicles, and that it wasn`t used as a staple food in the far east - it is claimed that this is a myth created by the Soy industry. I don`t know what is correct and what isn`t, but nowadays I avoid it. Which is quite difficult, it is in loads of different kinds of foods.

Interesting comment about the grapefruit juice - it seems to be one of these foods that no-one can actually prove helps your boobs to grow, but no-one can quite prove it doesn`t. So for now, I `ll just keep drinking it. At this point I prefer grapefruit juice over orange juice anyway, so it is certainly not a hardship.

I think the make of PM is quite critical; I have heard that there are japanese sources claiming to be PM, but are not. The only real McCoy is to be found in N Thailand, and is quite hard to identify.

I and many others here can testify to the efficacy of Ainterol. 4x 500mg is the recommended male dose, but some people don't get a kickstart until higher dosages. Nothing happened with me until 6 x 500mg /day, and I have heard of 8 being required.

Other herbs (particularly hops) are considered by some to be effective, but the sheer quantity required for consumption compared to PM is huge, I believe.

Good luck,

B.

[Diva chick 32]

Not trying to Jack your thread Not-Moobs just have a question for bryony.
my current dosage of pm is 1000-1500 mg a day,so do i need to up that to 2000mg a day? Thanks!!
Diva Chick 32...

[not-moobs]

That`s okay, you can hijack away.

I am pretty sure it was not Ainterol - it was from some obscure web site, and was quite a bit cheaper than many others. So maybe there`s a good chance it wasn`t real PM. I had vague thoughts about this at the time. It came from somewhere in the UK I think, I don`t recall having to worry about overseas stuff.

[Pansy-Mae]

Diva/ NotMoobs,

Ainterol works fine for me and many others (despite what one or two people shout about it not being a cultivated product) and so does Pueraria.co.uk - both come from N. Thailand .

As for dose, yes I'd suggest you want to go up to 2000mg average but in my experience it seems to help if I cycle up and down between 1000mg and 3000mg per day over a month. However don't be surprised if you get a headache at 3000mg and if you do, just back off a bit to 2500 or 2000, whatever works - just don't panic and stop completely!

[Diva chick 32]

Thanks for the reply Pansy-Mae,
Funny you should mention the headache thing,I have gotten a headache for the past two days.I have been on 1500mg a day since last Sunday.im still trying to figure out if it is from the PM or not.all i take is PM,SP.I haven't had any pains or anything hardly at all this week.it seems like that would be a low dose to cause headaches wouldn't you think? guess I will drop my dosage down and see what happens
Diva Chick 32....