19-09-2013, 08:41 AM
Hi Y'all,
As I don't want to intrude on the current thread by kuzzy, I'll just start another one.
Been considering trying BO when PM ran out, and now it's gone. While I was researching here and elsewhere on BO, I came across an article, on the AARP website, about 10 medicines that contribute to dementia (alzheimers). Be patient, this is going somewhere. I discovered that I and my wife together are currently taking 3 of the noted medications. The article also offered tried and true alternatives to all noted meds. So, in order to locate some of the alternatives, I eventually hopped into the Swansons vitamins website. Additionally, found another one we'd been looking for, but couldn't find easily, so stopped looking. To replace the statins we take for cholesterol, I ordered an 8 month (should be long enough to see if they do the trick), supply of B-12, B-6, and folic acid. The extra one was Lions mane mushroom, proven by studies in S. Korea to be quite effective at staving off, and in some cases, improving dementia cases. Won't go into that anymore. Anyhoo, I found that BO was on special, 2 for the price of 1, (with a limit of 3 specials per each order). 2 bottles for $4.99 looked like a helluva deal. When I talked to the lady, she couldn't get the limit lifted. But, she managed to split up the total items into 3 separate orders, ($25 purchase minimum gets free shipping), so I was able to order 18 bottles. No, I'm not trying to sell them. (by the way, they have a 2for1 special on hops also).
Now for the questions. I'm committed to the BO, and have no nagging questions regarding using it. The question is what dosage? I have seen dosages here and elsewhere for 1-8 capsules/day. Worst case, a bottle of 60 would last just over 7 days. I told the very helpful lady at Swansons that I wanted 16. She thought I meant 16 bottles, and said I was already getting 18, but I explained to her that I wanted 16 orders, or 32 bottles. Reasoning being, worst case 1 bottle/week, to get 8 months would take 32 bottles. Insane? At 6 months to see results, why not order as much of BO as I did the other things? I'd be quite happy if dosage was less than that, but "be prepared"! Tomorrow, I'm going to order the lions mane, and toss another 3 orders of BO with it, or more, if I split up the lions mane order. So, the first question: what minimum dosage has anyone here gotten results with? Please be honest, I don't want to hear "I took 2/day for 7 days and started popping out all over. I know there are some here who've used it with varying success, and some of them are probably people who just hang around here without getting involved. If so, please contribute!
Next question. If BO is supposed to "aromatize" T into E, what happens if T levels are nearly non-existent? I know some here say don't take PM with BO, but have never seen proof, other than opinions, as to why one shouldn't do that. Especially if there's no T to aromatize. Would one then have to supply the T artificially? With my T level at 20-30, there's really nothing to work with. At this point, it seems to me that PM or hops would not be a problem, at a proper dosage, whatever that may prove to be. (I'd hate to explain to my doc why he's pumping me full of T, and my breasts are getting bigger!) Maybe my miniscule T would work, don't know.
Next question. Maybe last, for now. I don't come across an awful lot of people here remarking how PM has satisfactorily filled the rest of their bodies out, in addition to their breasts. Maybe other herbs added to a program help with this, but I don't want to be dipping into a dozen bottles of stuff every day, when I can keep it simple, and just use BO. I pretty well have the breasts I want (aren't we always willing to accept a little more?), and could now use some rounding out in other areas. If anyone has really experienced total filling out on PM, it would be nice to see photographic evidence. But all we seem concerned with is boob pics. I know, it is breast nexus after all, and not butt nexus. And, I've posted booby pics, too. Therefore, I'm assuming it doesn't happen all that much. I've been wrong before. Anyway, assuming PM doesn't give the total package, does that mean that possibly there are E receptors in other parts of our bodies that are not affected by PM? If so, would they be affected by so-called E-dominance that halts breast growth? If that were the case, then one could indeed take E with BO and be working on more areas of interest at the same time. I'm probably grasping at straws here with that question, but it is a curiousity of mine.
Hope to hear from folks with experience on this subject. I'm sure there's a lot of it out there. Take care, Patti
As I don't want to intrude on the current thread by kuzzy, I'll just start another one.
Been considering trying BO when PM ran out, and now it's gone. While I was researching here and elsewhere on BO, I came across an article, on the AARP website, about 10 medicines that contribute to dementia (alzheimers). Be patient, this is going somewhere. I discovered that I and my wife together are currently taking 3 of the noted medications. The article also offered tried and true alternatives to all noted meds. So, in order to locate some of the alternatives, I eventually hopped into the Swansons vitamins website. Additionally, found another one we'd been looking for, but couldn't find easily, so stopped looking. To replace the statins we take for cholesterol, I ordered an 8 month (should be long enough to see if they do the trick), supply of B-12, B-6, and folic acid. The extra one was Lions mane mushroom, proven by studies in S. Korea to be quite effective at staving off, and in some cases, improving dementia cases. Won't go into that anymore. Anyhoo, I found that BO was on special, 2 for the price of 1, (with a limit of 3 specials per each order). 2 bottles for $4.99 looked like a helluva deal. When I talked to the lady, she couldn't get the limit lifted. But, she managed to split up the total items into 3 separate orders, ($25 purchase minimum gets free shipping), so I was able to order 18 bottles. No, I'm not trying to sell them. (by the way, they have a 2for1 special on hops also).
Now for the questions. I'm committed to the BO, and have no nagging questions regarding using it. The question is what dosage? I have seen dosages here and elsewhere for 1-8 capsules/day. Worst case, a bottle of 60 would last just over 7 days. I told the very helpful lady at Swansons that I wanted 16. She thought I meant 16 bottles, and said I was already getting 18, but I explained to her that I wanted 16 orders, or 32 bottles. Reasoning being, worst case 1 bottle/week, to get 8 months would take 32 bottles. Insane? At 6 months to see results, why not order as much of BO as I did the other things? I'd be quite happy if dosage was less than that, but "be prepared"! Tomorrow, I'm going to order the lions mane, and toss another 3 orders of BO with it, or more, if I split up the lions mane order. So, the first question: what minimum dosage has anyone here gotten results with? Please be honest, I don't want to hear "I took 2/day for 7 days and started popping out all over. I know there are some here who've used it with varying success, and some of them are probably people who just hang around here without getting involved. If so, please contribute!
Next question. If BO is supposed to "aromatize" T into E, what happens if T levels are nearly non-existent? I know some here say don't take PM with BO, but have never seen proof, other than opinions, as to why one shouldn't do that. Especially if there's no T to aromatize. Would one then have to supply the T artificially? With my T level at 20-30, there's really nothing to work with. At this point, it seems to me that PM or hops would not be a problem, at a proper dosage, whatever that may prove to be. (I'd hate to explain to my doc why he's pumping me full of T, and my breasts are getting bigger!) Maybe my miniscule T would work, don't know.
Next question. Maybe last, for now. I don't come across an awful lot of people here remarking how PM has satisfactorily filled the rest of their bodies out, in addition to their breasts. Maybe other herbs added to a program help with this, but I don't want to be dipping into a dozen bottles of stuff every day, when I can keep it simple, and just use BO. I pretty well have the breasts I want (aren't we always willing to accept a little more?), and could now use some rounding out in other areas. If anyone has really experienced total filling out on PM, it would be nice to see photographic evidence. But all we seem concerned with is boob pics. I know, it is breast nexus after all, and not butt nexus. And, I've posted booby pics, too. Therefore, I'm assuming it doesn't happen all that much. I've been wrong before. Anyway, assuming PM doesn't give the total package, does that mean that possibly there are E receptors in other parts of our bodies that are not affected by PM? If so, would they be affected by so-called E-dominance that halts breast growth? If that were the case, then one could indeed take E with BO and be working on more areas of interest at the same time. I'm probably grasping at straws here with that question, but it is a curiousity of mine.
Hope to hear from folks with experience on this subject. I'm sure there's a lot of it out there. Take care, Patti
are you still up for that!...Yes,I'll put my big ass up if I can fit it in the shot.When I update my plan I'll throw in other pics,unfortunately I dumped all my other pics when I left (sorry) and have none to compare anymore.(So starting from the beginning)
But serious, I am not looking for just boobs. I want a body with some curves, the re-wiring I have seen others mention here and better hair, nail, and skin. I cannot figure out if I can obtain those goals on just PM. I also need a KISS (keep it simple stupid) type routine because I already have meds I take and don't want to add more unless I have to. I also was thinking about switching to BO but had some concerns about the effect on function. Can I take a dose that is both beneficial but not completely give me ED. If it would give me ED, could it be rectified by Cialis or Viagra? I have 6 month of PM for now, at least at the dosage marked on the bottles. So, I have some time to decided.