[Holmes12]

So I have been thinking that a program kick is needed, and have been reading a lot about BO, not all positive, but I have decided to give the PM path a short rest and see if BO might be the change the system requires, I only hope that if I go back to PM, it will still work.

I do not intend to go past the 6 month period, and do not have the cash for hight doses.

I will be taking it along with L-argenine and L-ornethine which I understand will help, if I have read correctly. My core body temp seem to be just below 98, I hope that does not effect it too much. I also intent to use Agnus Castus for the natural progesterone boost it can provide.

My starting point is:

Across the breast: 108 cms (42")
Under the breast: 99 cms (38")
Un-stimulated nipple projects: 1.4 cms (0.35")
Areola diameter: 3.8 cms (1.1")

Shape wise the breast material is most noticeable on the outer edges of the breast, with little on either the upper and inner sides, and next to no real under boob, I still pass as male very easily, yet I'm not phased by this.

I know changes are irreversible, but you don't go into NBE thinking things will remain the same.

Dosage will start at 6 BO per day, alternating the pills number taken throughout the day, but remaining and a total of 6, with 1 L-argenine - L-orthenine complex, and 1 Agnus Castus, next up date will be a couple of weeks.

[Outsider]

So I have been thinking that a program kick is needed, and have been reading a lot about BO, not all positive, but I have decided to give the PM path a short rest and see if BO might be the change the system requires, I only hope that if I go back to PM, it will still work.

I do not intend to go past the 6 month period, and do not have the cash for hight doses.

I will be taking it along with L-argenine and L-ornethine which I understand will help, if I have read correctly. My core body temp seem to be just below 98, I hope that does not effect it too much. I also intent to use Agnus Castus for the natural progesterone boost it can provide.

My starting point is:

Across the breast: 108 cms (42")
Under the breast: 99 cms (38")
Un-stimulated nipple projects: 1.4 cms (0.35")
Areola diameter: 3.8 cms (1.1")

Shape wise the breast material is most noticeable on the outer edges of the breast, with little on either the upper and inner sides, and next to no real under boob, I still pass as male very easily, yet I'm not phased by this.

I know changes are irreversible, but you don't go into NBE thinking things will remain the same.

Dosage will start at 6 BO per day, alternating the pills number taken throughout the day, but remaining and a total of 6, with 1 L-argenine - L-orthenine complex, and 1 Agnus Castus, next up date will be a couple of weeks.

If your core temp is low you should probably be taking L-Tyrosine before you sleep.

[Holmes12]

Actually I mis-calculated, my core temp appears to waiver between 98 - 99 F so that should be okay, I was surprise with the 97 result, given I'm normally too hot.

[Outsider]

You should probably consider adding something to prevent your T from converting to DHT(or at least reduce), and freeing more up to be converted into E instead.

[Holmes12]

I'm trying to keep the amount of things going in, down, if you know what I mean. But I'm interested if you have any suggestions around this.

[Outsider]

I'm trying to keep the amount of things going in, down, if you know what I mean. But I'm interested if you have any suggestions around this.

I've been using 1600mg (split into 2 doses, twice the minimum) of spearmint leaf extract(like spearmint tea but in cap form) twice per day, but 800mg is probably enough for a daily minimum. If you like spearmint tea that would probably be the cheaper option, though I'm not a tea drinker so I went with the caps.

People keep mentioning reishi mushroom extract as being good/strong, but I don't know how much you need. I'm thinking of trying it after my spearmint extract runs out.

You should avoid SP since I've heard mixed opinions about it on these boards, and it doesn't seem to be in favor.

Also avoid Chinese skullcap since it blocks/lowers T which is
not good when your trying to convert it to E.

[Holmes12]

Cheers, I use the mushroom already, it has many health benefits.

Might try and get some spearmint tea as well, as I do like the different herbal teas out there, and if it can help with this then its a bonus.

[Outsider]

Cheers, I use the mushroom already, it has many health benefits.

Might try and get some spearmint tea as well, as I do like the different herbal teas out there, and if it can help with this then its a bonus.

How much Reishi are you taking daily?

[Holmes12]

1 - 600 mg capsule per day.

I'm already getting the odd achy feeling I get in my chest, that I usually associate with PM related development.